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That's not how justice works. Unless you're found with a dead prostitute covered in blood, you don't owe anything to anyone if you're already powerful.

by eksith 13y ago

mynameishere 13y ago
Well, politics can intervene. Nixon and Clinton were so detested by their opposing parties that they were (or nearly were) impeached for fairly trivial reasons.
- eksith 13y ago
  That's very true. But look at the political atmosphere now. I feel that there's opposition theater rather than true opposition. Some of the things in opposition don't even make sense. People bicker over trite best left to late night "reality" TV, and how many actually believe the things they spout? Nixon, though he's one of my least favorite politicians, and Clinton actually believed in something; what do today's career politicians truly believe now? With the rise for 24/7 news and the internet, live performance to an ever vigilant target demographic is taking precedence over substantive action. I don't blame the politicians. I blame the people.
- rodgerd 13y ago
  Characterisimg illegal espionage for political advantage as "trivial reasons" is a remarkable piece of false equivocation.
  - eksith 13y ago
    I think what was meant was the opposition can play a large part in an intervention for trivial reasons so a grave reason should be more than enough motivation. ...If there is true opposition.
    - LoganCale 13y ago
      I think he was referring to Nixon's illegal espionage not being trivial.
- gohrt 13y ago
  Trivial? Nixon committed obvious non-political criminal activities in the oval office.
  - mynameishere 13y ago
    Sure. His real personal blunder was recording his conversations. High-level politics is mostly gangsterism. That has been true...forever. Nixon's out-in-open crimes like bombing Cambodia were much worse than his celebrated two-bit break-in, but no one did a thing about it. Hell, LBJ should have been put before a firing squad. Does anyone think that was a real possibility?
- mercurial 13y ago
  So, using CIA "plumbers" to spy on the opposing party is trivial?
  - LoganCale 13y ago
    They were planning to do a lot more than spy, too. They were planning to kill both Daniel Ellsberg (if they couldn't discredit him first, e.g. by giving him LSD to make him nonsensical just before making a public appearance) and the journalist Jack Anderson.
    - mercurial 13y ago
      Classy. Though considering how it was recently revealed that Nixon intentionally torpedoed the talks with Vietnam before he got elected, that's totally in line with the character.

That's not how justice works. Unless you're found with a dead prostitute covered in blood, you don't owe anything to anyone if you're already powerful.

by eksith 13y ago

That's not how justice works. Unless you're found with a dead prostitute covered in blood, you don't owe anything to anyone if you're already powerful.

mynameishere 13y ago

Well, politics can intervene. Nixon and Clinton were so detested by their opposing parties that they were (or nearly were) impeached for fairly trivial reasons.

eksith 13y ago
That's very true. But look at the political atmosphere now. I feel that there's opposition theater rather than true opposition. Some of the things in opposition don't even make sense. People bicker over trite best left to late night "reality" TV, and how many actually believe the things they spout? Nixon, though he's one of my least favorite politicians, and Clinton actually believed in something; what do today's career politicians truly believe now? With the rise for 24/7 news and the internet, live performance to an ever vigilant target demographic is taking precedence over substantive action. I don't blame the politicians. I blame the people.
rodgerd 13y ago
Characterisimg illegal espionage for political advantage as "trivial reasons" is a remarkable piece of false equivocation.
- eksith 13y ago
  I think what was meant was the opposition can play a large part in an intervention for trivial reasons so a grave reason should be more than enough motivation. ...If there is true opposition.
  - LoganCale 13y ago
    I think he was referring to Nixon's illegal espionage not being trivial.
gohrt 13y ago
Trivial? Nixon committed obvious non-political criminal activities in the oval office.
- mynameishere 13y ago
  Sure. His real personal blunder was recording his conversations. High-level politics is mostly gangsterism. That has been true...forever. Nixon's out-in-open crimes like bombing Cambodia were much worse than his celebrated two-bit break-in, but no one did a thing about it. Hell, LBJ should have been put before a firing squad. Does anyone think that was a real possibility?
mercurial 13y ago
So, using CIA "plumbers" to spy on the opposing party is trivial?
- LoganCale 13y ago
  They were planning to do a lot more than spy, too. They were planning to kill both Daniel Ellsberg (if they couldn't discredit him first, e.g. by giving him LSD to make him nonsensical just before making a public appearance) and the journalist Jack Anderson.
  - mercurial 13y ago
    Classy. Though considering how it was recently revealed that Nixon intentionally torpedoed the talks with Vietnam before he got elected, that's totally in line with the character.