What I mean is that there are these standard ways that actually held fast for quite some time. The big change between old school perl/php and new and cool ruby/

What I mean is that there are these standard ways that actually held fast for quite some time. The big change between old school perl/php and new and cool ruby/python was mostly the ORM. It was standard that you had some scripting language behind that some mysql. I used to do ASP classic, and from there to Django the diffrence is there but its not as radicle. With datomic and pedastal the hole way I tought about web programming changes. Im not arguing that all these things are better then what we used to have, but just that the threw over my hole thinking. Im trying to develop a simple boardgame that you can play online against each other. Normally I would just go in standard dev mode and it would be pretty clear what to do. Now that Im doing it wiht Datomic and Pedastal im constantly thrown off. How would you do this? Is that idiomatic? > Datomic (the closed-source community makes us pretty cautious to rely on it too heavily) Yeah I can see that. I kind of think that as people learn more about Datomic somebody will start a opensource implmentation of it.