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This is all straw man PR at this point. If companies were REALLY concerned with this, there would have been stories years before Snowden came forward with titl

This is all straw man PR at this point. If companies were REALLY concerned with this, there would have been stories years before Snowden came forward with titles such as "Microsoft Demands US Government Allow More Transparency on Security Concerns with 'Potential' Constitutional Implications" Instead the cat is out of the bag and now all of a sudden these companies want to talk about how the gag order is something they all hate. Better to ask forgiveness, I guess.

xradionut 13y ago
I believe this is really going to hurt their effort to sell Azure more than anything else.
- potatolicious 13y ago
  What's the record on the other major cloud providers? Not snarky, serious question - my impression is that none of them have been particularly defensive when it comes to resisting warrantless or secret-warrant searches.
  - barista 13y ago
    Exactly the press seems to be overly happy to bash MS for this when pretty much every online property has complied with such requests.
sentenza 13y ago
I used to claim that I want all these companies to give me functioning end-to-end encryption. At this point, I can't even be sure that end-to-end would be sufficient with a Microsoft product, since it seems they hand over data gathered at my end. I find it hard to see how they could recover from this PR nightmare. Well, they at least have to try, I suppose.
- vijayr 13y ago
  This seems to be a PR nightmare only in the tech circles. Most likely, nothing will change. Bunch of techies will stop using MS products, which wouldn't make any difference to MS. Bulk of the population will continue using MS products (because either they don't understand, or just don't care - most likely the latter)
kostyakow 13y ago
Yes, this is PR. But what else were this companies supposed to do? If they disclosed any information, then they would get into a lot of trouble with the government and possible get arrested.

xradionut 13y ago

I believe this is really going to hurt their effort to sell Azure more than anything else.

potatolicious 13y ago
What's the record on the other major cloud providers? Not snarky, serious question - my impression is that none of them have been particularly defensive when it comes to resisting warrantless or secret-warrant searches.
- barista 13y ago
  Exactly the press seems to be overly happy to bash MS for this when pretty much every online property has complied with such requests.

sentenza 13y ago

I used to claim that I want all these companies to give me functioning end-to-end encryption. At this point, I can't even be sure that end-to-end would be sufficient with a Microsoft product, since it seems they hand over data gathered at my end. I find it hard to see how they could recover from this PR nightmare. Well, they at least have to try, I suppose.

vijayr 13y ago
This seems to be a PR nightmare only in the tech circles. Most likely, nothing will change. Bunch of techies will stop using MS products, which wouldn't make any difference to MS. Bulk of the population will continue using MS products (because either they don't understand, or just don't care - most likely the latter)

kostyakow 13y ago

Yes, this is PR. But what else were this companies supposed to do? If they disclosed any information, then they would get into a lot of trouble with the government and possible get arrested.