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That's "you're right." Engineers must have excellent writing and communication skills. You're fired.

ErrantX 17y ago
Yay abuse.... you should see some of my other writing: dyslexia really takes it's toll when you cant see the difference between "many men" and "man ymen" (a mistake I made last night) even when you read it back. It makes teeny tiny grammar errors like that immaterial ;) Take your abuse elsewhere: I am happy to debate my points but at least bring something constructive.
- ThatRickGuy 17y ago
  I'm not meaning to be abusive here, but I would highly recommend a spelling and grammar checker plug-in/add-on. There are many solid options available to both IE and FF. Being a person with dyslexia, and obviously knowing how critical clear communication is, it would be responsible of you to use such a tool to reduce the likelihood of confusion. -Rick
  - ErrantX 17y ago
    Thanks - not abusive at all :). Actually firefox for some obscure reason wont spell check me any more - possibly I am tbeing lazy not fixing it. I long ago developed some default checks on my writing to make sure spelling made sense (it only really breaks down now when im tired). But to the point of this reply: can you recommend a grammar checker for FireFox? Embarrasingly I cant find one on the addons site :(
- codahale 17y ago
  Ho ho! You fell into my trap! "It's" is a contraction of "it is." You mean "its" -- the possessive form. Another black eye for you; another feather in my cap! (Seriously, though. You're demanding tolerance of your cognitive differences -- which is perfectly reasonable -- but also asserting that engineers should approach problems by breaking it into finite automata, GIGO be damned. This strikes me as odd.)
  - ErrantX 17y ago
    Im not demanding anything. What I am saying is that resorting to attacking that (which has very little relevance to the discussion at hand) isn't going to win you the round. ;) To defend my statement: I explained how I, as an engineer, break a problem down. Pretty much every other engineer I know uses much the same approach (and when I hire I look for the same skill because it fits into our team) - but it's, of course, not the only way. Each to his own. Seriously: if your going to call out my english at least read and understand what is written ;) Nit picking over language isn't making a point for you: it'simply suggesting you dont have a decent counter argument. Someone else posted a convincing one - you should give it a read :) Your a "newish" commentor so I guess you havent learned the culture here :) I made the same mistake once. It's cool no harm done.
    - KirinDave 17y ago
      He as pointing out a potential inconsistency in your posts very subtly and politely, compared to how I would have done it. I am a software engineer and I do not work the way you are describing. I take the actual problem to be solved very seriously and try and solve that in the most minimal way possible while leveraging and reusing existing code. I suppose I am not hired because I work differently. I've fallen into your trap of not designing complex systems in a stressful situation the way you expect me to. So in revenge all my interviews now require a properly spelled and gramatically correct 5k word essay. It's just as arbitrary as what you've proposed. It is my "trap", which is your code word for "unreasonable and inscrutable expectation."
      - ErrantX 17y ago
        your assuming I wouldnt spell check a 5K essay and therefore would dail such a test... ;) EDIT: as I mentioned elsewhere people do do things in other ways (though you seem to be suggesting my approach might not take a problem seriously??) and there ain't anything wrong with that. At no point did I say there was :)
        KirinDave 17y ago

Yay abuse.... you should see some of my other writing: dyslexia really takes it's toll when you cant see the difference between "many men" and "man ymen" (a mistake I made last night) even when you read it back. It makes teeny tiny grammar errors like that immaterial ;) Take your abuse elsewhere: I am happy to debate my points but at least bring something constructive.

ThatRickGuy 17y ago
I'm not meaning to be abusive here, but I would highly recommend a spelling and grammar checker plug-in/add-on. There are many solid options available to both IE and FF. Being a person with dyslexia, and obviously knowing how critical clear communication is, it would be responsible of you to use such a tool to reduce the likelihood of confusion. -Rick
- ErrantX 17y ago
  Thanks - not abusive at all :). Actually firefox for some obscure reason wont spell check me any more - possibly I am tbeing lazy not fixing it. I long ago developed some default checks on my writing to make sure spelling made sense (it only really breaks down now when im tired). But to the point of this reply: can you recommend a grammar checker for FireFox? Embarrasingly I cant find one on the addons site :(
codahale 17y ago
Ho ho! You fell into my trap! "It's" is a contraction of "it is." You mean "its" -- the possessive form. Another black eye for you; another feather in my cap! (Seriously, though. You're demanding tolerance of your cognitive differences -- which is perfectly reasonable -- but also asserting that engineers should approach problems by breaking it into finite automata, GIGO be damned. This strikes me as odd.)
- ErrantX 17y ago
  Im not demanding anything. What I am saying is that resorting to attacking that (which has very little relevance to the discussion at hand) isn't going to win you the round. ;) To defend my statement: I explained how I, as an engineer, break a problem down. Pretty much every other engineer I know uses much the same approach (and when I hire I look for the same skill because it fits into our team) - but it's, of course, not the only way. Each to his own. Seriously: if your going to call out my english at least read and understand what is written ;) Nit picking over language isn't making a point for you: it'simply suggesting you dont have a decent counter argument. Someone else posted a convincing one - you should give it a read :) Your a "newish" commentor so I guess you havent learned the culture here :) I made the same mistake once. It's cool no harm done.
  - KirinDave 17y ago
    He as pointing out a potential inconsistency in your posts very subtly and politely, compared to how I would have done it. I am a software engineer and I do not work the way you are describing. I take the actual problem to be solved very seriously and try and solve that in the most minimal way possible while leveraging and reusing existing code. I suppose I am not hired because I work differently. I've fallen into your trap of not designing complex systems in a stressful situation the way you expect me to. So in revenge all my interviews now require a properly spelled and gramatically correct 5k word essay. It's just as arbitrary as what you've proposed. It is my "trap", which is your code word for "unreasonable and inscrutable expectation."
    - ErrantX 17y ago
      your assuming I wouldnt spell check a 5K essay and therefore would dail such a test... ;) EDIT: as I mentioned elsewhere people do do things in other ways (though you seem to be suggesting my approach might not take a problem seriously??) and there ain't anything wrong with that. At no point did I say there was :)
      - KirinDave 17y ago