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I'd like to see more studies on the effects of having a cell phone in your pocket all day long because: http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/2013/05/16/131324.htm

I'd like to see more studies on the effects of having a cell phone in your pocket all day long because: http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/2013/05/16/131324.htm http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/2013/05/16/131324.htm Plant sprouts won't germinate when placed near a wireless router. Also sleeping with a cell phone next to your head apparently affects concentration the next day.

guttermaw 13y ago
Any reference on that second part? Because I'd guess that the phone wakes you up, and insufficient sleep affects concentration. IOW, you'd need to blind the experiment.
jl6 13y ago
No disrespect to the students involved, but that experiment has not been reproduced in a rigorous test environment as far as I'm aware. It would be an extraordinary result so I would be disinclined to accept it without extraordinary evidence.
diminoten 13y ago
> Plant sprouts won't germinate when placed near a wireless router. Also sleeping with a cell phone next to your head apparently affects concentration the next day. If I germinated a plant sprout in my room near a wireless router, would you stop going around making this claim?
- lostlogin 13y ago
  I'd happily have nothing germinate near my router if it would just route properly. It updates new firmware every time I reset it. Turns out this can cause problems. Who'd have thought? Thanks Orcon, New Zealand.
WalterSear 13y ago
That plants and wireless routers news article you refer to was bad reporting, nothing more.
com2kid 13y ago
> Plant sprouts won't germinate when placed near a wireless router. The area next to my wireless router is so hot it is uncomfortable to touch. How near is near? Oh and also, the plant sprouts germinated just fine. The media misreported the living hell out of things. Pictures can be found in the pdf@ http://www.dr.dk/NR/rdonlyres/075641A4-F4D4-4ECF-834F-C0DAF2B8E1E1/5134835/Finaleposter24apr2013.pdf http://www.dr.dk/NR/rdonlyres/075641A4-F4D4-4ECF-834F-C0DAF2... The seeds next to the router did grow slower. > Also sleeping with a cell phone next to your head apparently affects concentration the next day. Students "noticed". Which means nothing. Measuring focus and concentration is a well studied field, we have excellent tests for doing that. It would be VERY simple to properly measure the impact on sleeping next to a cellphone and concentration. Other things that could come into play: Talking/Texting on a cellphone late at night before sleeping means less sleep or the possibility of less quality sleep, impacting concentration the next day. Oh, and also what was eaten for breakfast on a given day. (Reading up more, the plant based one looks like it wasn't done horribly, but there are way too many variables. Unfortunately the reports are not in English so it is hard to find a good analysis of them.)
tomjen3 13y ago
Please don't go around posting that psydo-science. It is a ninth-grade science project. It has no backing at all.

guttermaw 13y ago

Any reference on that second part? Because I'd guess that the phone wakes you up, and insufficient sleep affects concentration. IOW, you'd need to blind the experiment.

jl6 13y ago

No disrespect to the students involved, but that experiment has not been reproduced in a rigorous test environment as far as I'm aware. It would be an extraordinary result so I would be disinclined to accept it without extraordinary evidence.

diminoten 13y ago

> Plant sprouts won't germinate when placed near a wireless router. Also sleeping with a cell phone next to your head apparently affects concentration the next day. If I germinated a plant sprout in my room near a wireless router, would you stop going around making this claim?

lostlogin 13y ago
I'd happily have nothing germinate near my router if it would just route properly. It updates new firmware every time I reset it. Turns out this can cause problems. Who'd have thought? Thanks Orcon, New Zealand.

WalterSear 13y ago

That plants and wireless routers news article you refer to was bad reporting, nothing more.

com2kid 13y ago

> Plant sprouts won't germinate when placed near a wireless router. The area next to my wireless router is so hot it is uncomfortable to touch. How near is near? Oh and also, the plant sprouts germinated just fine. The media misreported the living hell out of things. Pictures can be found in the pdf@ http://www.dr.dk/NR/rdonlyres/075641A4-F4D4-4ECF-834F-C0DAF2B8E1E1/5134835/Finaleposter24apr2013.pdf http://www.dr.dk/NR/rdonlyres/075641A4-F4D4-4ECF-834F-C0DAF2... The seeds next to the router did grow slower. > Also sleeping with a cell phone next to your head apparently affects concentration the next day. Students "noticed". Which means nothing. Measuring focus and concentration is a well studied field, we have excellent tests for doing that. It would be VERY simple to properly measure the impact on sleeping next to a cellphone and concentration. Other things that could come into play: Talking/Texting on a cellphone late at night before sleeping means less sleep or the possibility of less quality sleep, impacting concentration the next day. Oh, and also what was eaten for breakfast on a given day. (Reading up more, the plant based one looks like it wasn't done horribly, but there are way too many variables. Unfortunately the reports are not in English so it is hard to find a good analysis of them.)

tomjen3 13y ago

Please don't go around posting that psydo-science. It is a ninth-grade science project. It has no backing at all.