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I can't stand it when fanboy'ish trumps the point being made around here, especially with regard to jobs and torvalds and their unprofessionalism toward their e

I can't stand it when fanboy'ish trumps the point being made around here, especially with regard to jobs and torvalds and their unprofessionalism toward their employees. nobody is saying linux isn't a major contribution to the world. linus is an unprofessional asshole. bottom line.

Zikes 13y ago
1. Torvalds doesn't employ anyone to work on the kernel, it's an open source project not a company. Sarah and everyone else on that mailing list are volunteers. 2. Professionalism means different things to different people, and in Linus's case it means being uncompromising in his expectations of the people he allows to work on his code. 3. Yes, he's an asshole. He wears that badge with pride (just look up the origination of the name for "git"), but he's also been an asshole for the past twenty years or so. I think people ought to know what they're getting into by now, and if not then it's their own fault. 4. He has the right to run his project how he sees fit, and so far that's working pretty damn well. Would that work for me? No. Would it work for you? Probably not. Does it work for what is potentially the most important software contribution to the world? Yes, it most certainly does. And that's the bottom line.
- rambojohnson 13y ago
  | 2. Professionalism means different things to different people, and in Linus's case it means being uncompromising in his expectations of the people he allows to work on his code. by yelling and cursing at them... anyone with enough self-respect and high enough self esteem wouldn't work a day for a guy like that. I don't care what the cause/product. | 4. He has the right to run his project how he sees fit, and so far that's working pretty damn well. yes, I use to work for a company that had primadona dev leads who'd yell and demean their junior and senior devs in public about checking in bugs against apps that were also working pretty damn well. we also had a revolving door (lowest employee retention of all the other departments) for developers in the company.

Zikes 13y ago

1. Torvalds doesn't employ anyone to work on the kernel, it's an open source project not a company. Sarah and everyone else on that mailing list are volunteers. 2. Professionalism means different things to different people, and in Linus's case it means being uncompromising in his expectations of the people he allows to work on his code. 3. Yes, he's an asshole. He wears that badge with pride (just look up the origination of the name for "git"), but he's also been an asshole for the past twenty years or so. I think people ought to know what they're getting into by now, and if not then it's their own fault. 4. He has the right to run his project how he sees fit, and so far that's working pretty damn well. Would that work for me? No. Would it work for you? Probably not. Does it work for what is potentially the most important software contribution to the world? Yes, it most certainly does. And that's the bottom line.

rambojohnson 13y ago
| 2. Professionalism means different things to different people, and in Linus's case it means being uncompromising in his expectations of the people he allows to work on his code. by yelling and cursing at them... anyone with enough self-respect and high enough self esteem wouldn't work a day for a guy like that. I don't care what the cause/product. | 4. He has the right to run his project how he sees fit, and so far that's working pretty damn well. yes, I use to work for a company that had primadona dev leads who'd yell and demean their junior and senior devs in public about checking in bugs against apps that were also working pretty damn well. we also had a revolving door (lowest employee retention of all the other departments) for developers in the company.