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For all the talk about how Apple hates skeuomorphism, when I got to this part I started wondering if I was looking at an April Fools' joke: http://imagebin.org/

by kunai 13y ago

For all the talk about how Apple hates skeuomorphism, when I got to this part I started wondering if I was looking at an April Fools' joke: http://imagebin.org/264732 http://imagebin.org/264732

glasshead969 13y ago
It will be interesting how they will redesign GarageBand for iPad when iOS 7 comes out.
icefox 13y ago
Is the ipad "pairing" a new feature or an old one? "The Logic Remote app lets you wirelessly pair your Mac and your iPad — giving you the freedom to control Logic Pro from anywhere in the room." Having audio buttons I push with the mouse always seemed silly, but when I get to use my fingers it seems at least not as bad.
calinet6 13y ago
It would be very poignant of you to point that out if the interface was not trying to emulate famous and well-known real-world objects. Music people eat that up. It's entirely the right choice, and the rest of the interface is clean. There are no problems here, just good design overall it seems.
- wwweston 13y ago
  > There are no problems here Speaking as a longtime user of both physical audio gear and audio software (not to mention one of the "music people"), I think there is a big problem: knobs. Knobs don't translate well to the screen. It's hard to do a twisting motion with the mouse or a finger on a touch screen. So a lot of programs just make them a kind of compact slider/fader -- you move the mouse up and down, and the knob turns. This is an interaction that can have some problematic interactions with scrolling and/or screen real-estate availability even after you've figured out how this works. And it's not exactly intuitive. And there's often just better ways to do things. For example, I'd be happy if I never saw another EQ knob again in software -- being able to visualize/tweak a spectrum envelope is a clear winner over having to twiddle knobs. Or heck, I'd rather have MAX or pd's box-value compact faders that I can enter values into (along with sliding the mouse up and down) than knobs. I know the familiar is often fun and feels accessible, I even know there are sometimes where the compact-fader thing is helpful. I just think knobs are way over used in software and it is a problem.
  - calinet6 13y ago
    Yeah, I'm sure there actually are lots of UI problems, and you could generally design a UI that is better for controlling the effects and levels than the physical analogy used here. But it's hard to beat a UI that not only feels accessible, but is accessible if you've used the (often famous) hardware in real life, and not only that, teaches you how to use it so that if you ever encounter that specific pedal or this effects unit in reality, you have some clue of how it works. Maybe it's not a concern and I'm making this shit up, but it is at least a cool advantage.
- deleted 13y ago
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k-mcgrady 13y ago
There's some reason behind this. Amps for example aren't named after the real world models (I don't think they have the license for that). But through the design in the app it's easy to tell what it's modelled after. It also helps make the app more accessible to musicians who use the real world objects everyday. The only real problem with the design is knobs which can be tricky to use but I've found by placing the mouse over it and using the trackpad scroll they work well enough.

by kunai 13y ago

For all the talk about how Apple hates skeuomorphism, when I got to this part I started wondering if I was looking at an April Fools' joke: http://imagebin.org/264732 http://imagebin.org/264732

glasshead969 13y ago

It will be interesting how they will redesign GarageBand for iPad when iOS 7 comes out.

icefox 13y ago

Is the ipad "pairing" a new feature or an old one? "The Logic Remote app lets you wirelessly pair your Mac and your iPad — giving you the freedom to control Logic Pro from anywhere in the room." Having audio buttons I push with the mouse always seemed silly, but when I get to use my fingers it seems at least not as bad.

calinet6 13y ago

It would be very poignant of you to point that out if the interface was not trying to emulate famous and well-known real-world objects. Music people eat that up. It's entirely the right choice, and the rest of the interface is clean. There are no problems here, just good design overall it seems.

wwweston 13y ago
> There are no problems here Speaking as a longtime user of both physical audio gear and audio software (not to mention one of the "music people"), I think there is a big problem: knobs. Knobs don't translate well to the screen. It's hard to do a twisting motion with the mouse or a finger on a touch screen. So a lot of programs just make them a kind of compact slider/fader -- you move the mouse up and down, and the knob turns. This is an interaction that can have some problematic interactions with scrolling and/or screen real-estate availability even after you've figured out how this works. And it's not exactly intuitive. And there's often just better ways to do things. For example, I'd be happy if I never saw another EQ knob again in software -- being able to visualize/tweak a spectrum envelope is a clear winner over having to twiddle knobs. Or heck, I'd rather have MAX or pd's box-value compact faders that I can enter values into (along with sliding the mouse up and down) than knobs. I know the familiar is often fun and feels accessible, I even know there are sometimes where the compact-fader thing is helpful. I just think knobs are way over used in software and it is a problem.
- calinet6 13y ago
  Yeah, I'm sure there actually are lots of UI problems, and you could generally design a UI that is better for controlling the effects and levels than the physical analogy used here. But it's hard to beat a UI that not only feels accessible, but is accessible if you've used the (often famous) hardware in real life, and not only that, teaches you how to use it so that if you ever encounter that specific pedal or this effects unit in reality, you have some clue of how it works. Maybe it's not a concern and I'm making this shit up, but it is at least a cool advantage.
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k-mcgrady 13y ago

There's some reason behind this. Amps for example aren't named after the real world models (I don't think they have the license for that). But through the design in the app it's easy to tell what it's modelled after. It also helps make the app more accessible to musicians who use the real world objects everyday. The only real problem with the design is knobs which can be tricky to use but I've found by placing the mouse over it and using the trackpad scroll they work well enough.