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Of course there is Someone who can do anything just because they put their mind to it? Then why did nobody ever put their mind to curing cancer in 5 minutes th

Of course there is Someone who can do anything just because they put their mind to it? Then why did nobody ever put their mind to curing cancer in 5 minutes then? Too busy with more interesting stuff? If you can excel at anything others put your mind to, simply because you want to excel (which was directly what was in the cartoon), then you can do it for anything you can put your mind to as well. Not unless you know and respect yourself. Not if you're too glued to authority to do it. If she can excel at any task set, she's very smart and she's proved to herself she can do anything if she tries. You responded to ZERO of the point you were just quoting. You just ramble on and on. I'm sorry, but I get nothing out of this and you're just talking to yourself. No, I think that the image of school as a robot factory and point of government control is overblown, almost to the point of a conspiracy theory. "conspiracy theory"? Really? That's your best shot? Bye!

Nursie 13y ago
>> Someone who can do anything just because they put their mind to it? Then why did nobody ever put their mind to curing cancer in 5 minutes then? Too busy with more interesting stuff? You deliberately twist my words just to try to make your point. I said "the sort of person that can excel at anything they put their mind to". Brilliant cancer researchers can excel at their chosen field without having to have the whole field sewn up by the end of the week, no? >> Not unless you know and respect yourself. Not if you're too glued to authority to do it. I've said in several places this seems to be a girl realising she has choices. I just don't think it's unusual, damning of the school system or a reason for anyone to lament her life up until now, I think it's a normal part of adolescent development expressed naively (which is to be expected of adolescents!). >> You responded to ZERO of the point you were just quoting. You just ramble on and on. I'm sorry, but I get nothing out of this and you're just talking to yourself. Back at you, see top of this post and twisting words. >> "conspiracy theory"? Really? That's your best shot? Bye! Bye then.
- PavlovsCat 13y ago
  Twisting words? You said "sort of person". There is no such "sort". That you then say "oh that means people can't excel at stuff blah blah blah" is of your own making. Brilliant cancer researchers can excel at their chosen field Sure, but that doesn't mean they automatically are great at basketball or rocket science. I mean yeah, if I put my mind to the things I know I can excel at, then I can excel at anything I put my mind to. Big whoop. I've said in several places this seems to be a girl realising she has choices. I'd say it's reflecting on robot like tendencies. Why would one even have to realize that unless they had some kind of issue before that? Ever saw kids play, heck, toddlers cry? Knowing you have choices is the default, and it gets broken and beaten out of some. How can you deny this? Because there are also people who excel and do so out of their free will? That's just throwing a wrench into a perfectly good discussion just because it goes over your head. I mean, just to switch gears for a sec, ever noticed the plague of "achievement hunting"? People ticking off boxes just because those boxes exist and they have nothing better to do with themselves? Same thing. This can also be found in school among some, and in businesses as well. How could you possibly miss it? Back at you, see top of this post and twisting words. That somehow means you are not just quoting parts of my post, then talking stuff that addresses none of or isn't even about anything related to the quote?
  - Nursie 13y ago
    I thought you said bye? >> Twisting words? You said "sort of person". There is no such "sort". That you then say "oh that means people can't excel at stuff blah blah blah" is of your own making. Yes, twisting my words to make your ridiculous point. This comment specifically is nonsense - "Then why did nobody ever put their mind to curing cancer in 5 minutes then? Too busy with more interesting stuff?" And yes, by excelling at everything in school she has shown she's the sort of person that can excel at many things, by studying and applying herself. Not everyone has it in them to excel in one space, let alone lots. I'm not really sure what your problem is here. >> Sure, but that doesn't mean they automatically are great at basketball or rocket science. No, why on earth would it? But it might mean that they are at a crossroads now and can excel at whatever direction they decide to take their life, be that cancer research, rocket science, whatever. She's smart and shown a capacity for dedication, so can probably be nearly anything she wants. Seriously, what is your problem with this? (--edit-- hell, maybe she wants to buy some land and run a drum workshop, it's her choice too, I'm not trying to constrain the discussion to academic disciplines) >> I mean yeah, if I put my mind to the things I know I can excel at, then I can excel at anything I put my mind to. Big whoop. Now you're just spouting nonsense again. >> I'd say it's reflecting on robot like tendencies. Why would one even have to realize that unless they had some kind of issue before that? Because they're an adolescent just waking up to the extent of the world around them. It happens. Her parents and teachers probably have influenced her thinking about how her life is due to unfold. She probably had an internal roadmap that was partly put there by society, partly by the adults in her life, and partly by her own assumptions. She's realising it's not set in stone. Good for her. >> Ever saw kids play, heck, toddlers cry? Knowing you have choices is the default, and it gets broken and beaten out of some. How can you deny this? Because there are also people who excel and do so out of their free will? That's just throwing a wrench into a perfectly good discussion just because it goes over your head. I'm not sure I have any idea what you're talking about any more. >>I mean, just to switch gears for a sec, ever noticed the plague of "achievement hunting"? People ticking off boxes just because those boxes exist and they have nothing better to do with themselves? Same thing. This can also be found in school among some, and in businesses as well. How could you possibly miss it? No, really no clue. >> That somehow means you are not just quoting parts of my post, then talking stuff that addresses none of or isn't even about anything related to the quote? At least I'm quoting what you actually said instead of making shit up.

Nursie 13y ago

>> Someone who can do anything just because they put their mind to it? Then why did nobody ever put their mind to curing cancer in 5 minutes then? Too busy with more interesting stuff? You deliberately twist my words just to try to make your point. I said "the sort of person that can excel at anything they put their mind to". Brilliant cancer researchers can excel at their chosen field without having to have the whole field sewn up by the end of the week, no? >> Not unless you know and respect yourself. Not if you're too glued to authority to do it. I've said in several places this seems to be a girl realising she has choices. I just don't think it's unusual, damning of the school system or a reason for anyone to lament her life up until now, I think it's a normal part of adolescent development expressed naively (which is to be expected of adolescents!). >> You responded to ZERO of the point you were just quoting. You just ramble on and on. I'm sorry, but I get nothing out of this and you're just talking to yourself. Back at you, see top of this post and twisting words. >> "conspiracy theory"? Really? That's your best shot? Bye! Bye then.

PavlovsCat 13y ago
Twisting words? You said "sort of person". There is no such "sort". That you then say "oh that means people can't excel at stuff blah blah blah" is of your own making. Brilliant cancer researchers can excel at their chosen field Sure, but that doesn't mean they automatically are great at basketball or rocket science. I mean yeah, if I put my mind to the things I know I can excel at, then I can excel at anything I put my mind to. Big whoop. I've said in several places this seems to be a girl realising she has choices. I'd say it's reflecting on robot like tendencies. Why would one even have to realize that unless they had some kind of issue before that? Ever saw kids play, heck, toddlers cry? Knowing you have choices is the default, and it gets broken and beaten out of some. How can you deny this? Because there are also people who excel and do so out of their free will? That's just throwing a wrench into a perfectly good discussion just because it goes over your head. I mean, just to switch gears for a sec, ever noticed the plague of "achievement hunting"? People ticking off boxes just because those boxes exist and they have nothing better to do with themselves? Same thing. This can also be found in school among some, and in businesses as well. How could you possibly miss it? Back at you, see top of this post and twisting words. That somehow means you are not just quoting parts of my post, then talking stuff that addresses none of or isn't even about anything related to the quote?
- Nursie 13y ago
  I thought you said bye? >> Twisting words? You said "sort of person". There is no such "sort". That you then say "oh that means people can't excel at stuff blah blah blah" is of your own making. Yes, twisting my words to make your ridiculous point. This comment specifically is nonsense - "Then why did nobody ever put their mind to curing cancer in 5 minutes then? Too busy with more interesting stuff?" And yes, by excelling at everything in school she has shown she's the sort of person that can excel at many things, by studying and applying herself. Not everyone has it in them to excel in one space, let alone lots. I'm not really sure what your problem is here. >> Sure, but that doesn't mean they automatically are great at basketball or rocket science. No, why on earth would it? But it might mean that they are at a crossroads now and can excel at whatever direction they decide to take their life, be that cancer research, rocket science, whatever. She's smart and shown a capacity for dedication, so can probably be nearly anything she wants. Seriously, what is your problem with this? (--edit-- hell, maybe she wants to buy some land and run a drum workshop, it's her choice too, I'm not trying to constrain the discussion to academic disciplines) >> I mean yeah, if I put my mind to the things I know I can excel at, then I can excel at anything I put my mind to. Big whoop. Now you're just spouting nonsense again. >> I'd say it's reflecting on robot like tendencies. Why would one even have to realize that unless they had some kind of issue before that? Because they're an adolescent just waking up to the extent of the world around them. It happens. Her parents and teachers probably have influenced her thinking about how her life is due to unfold. She probably had an internal roadmap that was partly put there by society, partly by the adults in her life, and partly by her own assumptions. She's realising it's not set in stone. Good for her. >> Ever saw kids play, heck, toddlers cry? Knowing you have choices is the default, and it gets broken and beaten out of some. How can you deny this? Because there are also people who excel and do so out of their free will? That's just throwing a wrench into a perfectly good discussion just because it goes over your head. I'm not sure I have any idea what you're talking about any more. >>I mean, just to switch gears for a sec, ever noticed the plague of "achievement hunting"? People ticking off boxes just because those boxes exist and they have nothing better to do with themselves? Same thing. This can also be found in school among some, and in businesses as well. How could you possibly miss it? No, really no clue. >> That somehow means you are not just quoting parts of my post, then talking stuff that addresses none of or isn't even about anything related to the quote? At least I'm quoting what you actually said instead of making shit up.