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Hardcore Ubuntu user here. I come from a Windows background. I mean like for 15 years almost, I was running on Windows. When I first got introduced to Ubuntu (5
by neya 13y ago
Hardcore Ubuntu user here. I come from a Windows background. I mean like for 15 years almost, I was running on Windows. When I first got introduced to Ubuntu (5 years ago), it was a breath of fresh air. I loved the terminal and I loved the freedom of choice and the fact that nothing was thrusted into my throat. It was really nice. Until they introduced Unity. It was one of the poorest User experience designed, ever. Suddenly the OS I was in love with became so alien.
Of course I could switch back to the original normal GUI with a few command line entries and a few option entries. But it was already too late. The flexibility I had in 10.xx was gone in 12.xx. 12.xx become so clunky, heavy and painful to use, that I had to abandon it altogether. I can back up my statements too - Try comparing boot/shut down times of 10.xx and 12.xx, you'll know.
Meanwhile, on Windows, the start button just disappeared. And I DID get used to it, but the fact that Ubuntu's Unity had become synonymous to Microsoft pushing their Metro UI into my throat was a nail in the coffin.
Now I run dual boot - Mac OS X along with Windows 8.1. I'm using the Mac OS for about a year or two now and it's really good at what it does. Almost feels like Ubuntu's 10.xx w.r.t boot times. And I never will be looking back.
Ubuntu is a perfect example of "Don't fix something if it ain't broke."
- talles 13y agoI felt exactly as you. IMO, Ubuntu 10.04 was the best version. ever.
- tomrod 13y agoI don't know, I'm enjoying the latest, but with Xmonad.
- velodrome 13y agoMost people I have talked to tend to agree that 10.10 was on of the best point releases. However, 10.04 was a really solid the LTS release. I have had a lot of odd issues with 12.04 (random freezes after unsuspend, crashing apps, etc). 13.04 seems to fix a lot of the outstanding stability issues.
- fein 13y ago13.04 server + xorg and fluxbox. I know not what this 'Unity' hate is all about. apt-get still works last I checked. You guys need to stop equating OS releases with the UI that ships with the desktop versions. 13.04 is loads better than 10.04, and it has nothing to do with whatever DE happens to ship with it. If you don't like Unity, download Xubuntu.
- dman 13y agoAt the point where you are switching desktop environments you are already well into debian / slackware territory.
- MichaelSalib 13y agoExcept for the bit where ubuntu does regular scheduled releases.
- seabee 13y agoThis is why I choose Ubuntu over debian on my (3) servers. I don't want to cut myself on the bleeding edge of development but I'd prefer to stay ahead of the curve; easier when you have more frequent releases plus a good selection of PPAs.
- dman 13y agoUsing fluxbox is a strong indicator that youre less more interested in the latest bells and whistles and more interested in "do things my way". I include dwm, ratpoison, awesome users in this camp as well.
- dorolow 13y ago`apt-get install xfce-desktop lightdm` isn't exactly what I would describe as slackware territory.
- _ZeD_ 13y ago
- NanoWar 13y agoI had problems with getting updates, because I think they only support two years? Meh I was still on Firefox 3.5 and wanted to update, to I tried the new Ubuntu with Unity and it sucked. Then I tried Gnome 3, Gnome Shell and they all disappointed me in a different way :( I'm on Linux Mint now, and very happy! The logo is the only thing that's ugly in my opinion haha...
- trailfox 13y agoSame here, used Ubuntu for years until Unity came out and drove me back to Windows for desktop use.
- dllthomas 13y agoI use Ubuntu on my laptop, and haven't touched unity. Just install something else!
- Buzaga 13y agoI just switched to Gnome Shell and I'm happy. And I check on Unity with every release to see how is it going... did you read the article? the last part is talking exactly about this type of attitude, I'd rather Ubuntu plays it unsafe, risking it all, expanding, getting to the common folk laptops and phones, and my phone than circle around irrelevant stuff. If you're a HC Ubuntu user you can change your display anytime and make it work for you, I see nothing wrong with them trying to move further than the point where I'm at, I'm semi-geek, I can deal with this myself, I don't want Ubuntu to be doing everything exclusively for me then going ~oh how dare they did something that haven't pleased ME!?~, I want it to succeed.
- sspiff 13y agoI've been enjoying Linux Mint for the past year, which for me comes configured almost exactly the way I want it out of the box, and I don't feel limited by the choice and configurability it offers.
- pseut 13y agoI like Mint a lot, but I liked it more before going through the upgrade process.
- yulaow 13y agoyeah, that's the problem of mint. They don't support dist-upgrade so, when they release a new version, you are supposed to reinstall the full os or try yourself a dist-upgrade changing manually all the repos and being careful with confilcts (and there will be often). In my opinion that is a nonsense
- sspiff 13y agoI agree. Using their Debian testing based rolling release could fix that, for the price of losing Ubuntu-compatibility...
- xaviorm 13y agoI also come from a windows background and I love unity. To me the stale concept of drop down/up menuing systems has always been less than usable. They work ok for individual applications but for running a desktop, it's a lot of wasted effort. I much rather just type the first few letters of an app and go. I do not get why the big desktop distros are just supposed to repeat M$ style menus. It seems a lot to me that people just want to stay stuck in the past using a less optimized system because it feel comfortable. Unity is hardly metro.
- Shorel 13y agoMost Ubuntu Unity nay-sayers are stuck with a Windows95 clone with xterms and fail to see the irony in that.
- methodin 13y agoWhat is it about Linux that people are afraid of when it comes to change? Change is the only constant anywhere. You are welcome to be running an old distro on an old box because it's comfortable to you but please stop whining when stuff moves forward without you. There are plenty of people waiting down the road for more interesting things to occur and you simply don't get there by doing nothing but fixing bugs.
- kostyakow 13y agoF.U.D. You said that Ubuntu is not "flexible" anymore, but now you are running OS X and Win8? Are you kidding me? It's like moving to North Korea because of NSA's spying. The only slow part about Ubuntu is Unity, but if you try running OS X, Ubuntu and Windows on the same-priced hardware, Ubuntu will _still_ probably win. And you can easily replace it with "sudo apt-get install whatever-DE-you-want && sudo apt-get remove unity". After that, all of the bloat is gone. For example, Ubuntu + XMonad runs _perfectly_ on a $200 Chromebook, which could not handle Unity. Also, it may be a big surprise for you, but gasp Ubuntu is not the only Linux distro. You want fast boot time -- try Arch. Want a stable distro? install Debian. Need an easy-to-use distro similar to Ubuntu, but with a normal DE? consider Mint. >Ubuntu's Unity had become synonymous to Microsoft pushing their Metro UI into my throat was a nail in the coffin. I don't understand this. It seems like you dislike Win8 UI so much, mere associating of Unity with Metro caused you to stop using Ubuntu -- to switch to Win8?
- Shorel 13y agoAs long as Ubuntu ends up running in my Phone, I don't care if any of the 1% that runs Linux on the Desktop loves or hates Unity. Smartphones and tablets are the market-share growers now.
- synchronise 13y agoSo you couldn't figure out how to change the DE? Maybe OSX and Windows are the right choices for you.