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sorry to hear london doesn't accept bicyclists and doesn't provide infrastructure for them. can't imagine riding them on pavement. that being said, zero stoppi

by bosie 13y ago

sorry to hear london doesn't accept bicyclists and doesn't provide infrastructure for them. can't imagine riding them on pavement. that being said, zero stopping power? i used the trike to transport various heavy things (not children though) and the two front disc brakes had no problem stopping me immediately. maybe you just had bad luck with yours?

harrytuttle 13y ago
Some infrastructure is available but you are a second class citizen as a cyclist. The cycle routes are always heavily parked on or really rough. I can just about stand them with a touring bike. I do not own one but have ridden one. Compared to my Dawes Galaxy it really just doesn't stop at all. I've been run over by one as a pedestrian as well. It came skidding to a halt. That did have children in it though.
- bosie 13y ago
  I couldn't feel much difference to my touring bike, which has SLX disc brakes. though i have seen plenty of non-disc brake equipped cargo bikes in copenhagen and yes, i find that quite dangerous too.
jzwinck 13y ago
On the contrary, London has the Barclays aka Boris Bike short-term hire scheme. It has the (also Barclays-sponsored) Cycle Superhighways. It has thousands of cycle commuters every day, even in the rain. Many offices have showers; some have secure cycle parking (even for those that don't, cycle theft is a bit less rampant than in NYC). The whole of the UK has Sustrans, which produces routes and maps across the island, not always perfect but pretty impressive and useful if you aren't in a hurry. The idea that London doesn't accept bicyclists or provide infrastructure for them is quite untrue. That said, plenty of people in London from Europe view London as insufficiently bike-friendly. Which it is, too.
- bosie 13y ago
  right, i should have been more precise. london has infrastructure for bicycles but just not the important ones. read what harry rights and then check against the infrastructure you listed. apparently actual needs aren't fulfilled in london. the two most important things are: - segregated bicycle paths - forgiving attitude towards bicycles by drivers those should have top priority, the rest is icing on the cake. photo of a bicycle path in copenhagen: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4119/4735055023_b1b8425c8b_b.jpg https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4119/4735055023_b1b8425c8b_b.... but maybe i am biased. i would give up all the things you mentioned for wide, segregated bicycle paths as i just love a safe and stable ride on my bike.

by bosie 13y ago

harrytuttle 13y ago

Some infrastructure is available but you are a second class citizen as a cyclist. The cycle routes are always heavily parked on or really rough. I can just about stand them with a touring bike. I do not own one but have ridden one. Compared to my Dawes Galaxy it really just doesn't stop at all. I've been run over by one as a pedestrian as well. It came skidding to a halt. That did have children in it though.

bosie 13y ago
I couldn't feel much difference to my touring bike, which has SLX disc brakes. though i have seen plenty of non-disc brake equipped cargo bikes in copenhagen and yes, i find that quite dangerous too.

jzwinck 13y ago

On the contrary, London has the Barclays aka Boris Bike short-term hire scheme. It has the (also Barclays-sponsored) Cycle Superhighways. It has thousands of cycle commuters every day, even in the rain. Many offices have showers; some have secure cycle parking (even for those that don't, cycle theft is a bit less rampant than in NYC). The whole of the UK has Sustrans, which produces routes and maps across the island, not always perfect but pretty impressive and useful if you aren't in a hurry. The idea that London doesn't accept bicyclists or provide infrastructure for them is quite untrue. That said, plenty of people in London from Europe view London as insufficiently bike-friendly. Which it is, too.

bosie 13y ago
right, i should have been more precise. london has infrastructure for bicycles but just not the important ones. read what harry rights and then check against the infrastructure you listed. apparently actual needs aren't fulfilled in london. the two most important things are: - segregated bicycle paths - forgiving attitude towards bicycles by drivers those should have top priority, the rest is icing on the cake. photo of a bicycle path in copenhagen: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4119/4735055023_b1b8425c8b_b.jpg https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4119/4735055023_b1b8425c8b_b.... but maybe i am biased. i would give up all the things you mentioned for wide, segregated bicycle paths as i just love a safe and stable ride on my bike.