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She could've presented her critique without turning it into a gender issue: >I won't be the nice girl anymore.

by nawitus 13y ago

nawitus 13y ago
This is also pretty telling: >Snort. Perhaps we haven't interacted very often, but I have never seen you be nice in person at KS. Well, there was that one time you came to me and very quietly explained you had a problem with your USB 3.0 ports, but you came off as "scared to talk to a girl kernel developer" more than "I'm trying to be polite". While verbal abuse is not acceptable, neither is the male-shaming language she is using there.
- maqr 13y ago
  Wow. How can she possibly think that's an acceptable thing to say in a thread about politeness that she started? Now I'm beginning to wonder if I understand her complaint at all.
samwillis 13y ago
She is not making it into a gender issue. That statement is just the same as if it was a guy making a stand and wrote: I won't be the nice guy anymore.
- nawitus 13y ago
  The term 'nice guy' is also often used in discussions about gender. Of course that's not the case always. If I hear someone use the term 'nice guy' without context then my first guess is that it's about gender.
James_Duval 13y ago
I don't understand how that turns it into a gender issue. Should she have said "nice guy" instead?
- Cthulhu_ 13y ago
  I dunno, tbh I think some people are putting too much emphasis on her gender here (OMG A GURL!!one). A gender-neutral phrase would be "I won't be nice anymore", but tbh I don't think she was particularly fussed about her gender or bringing a gender issue into this discussion.
bru 13y ago
I fail to see how she turned it into a gender issue with those words. She's a woman and she's entitled to the use of the correct pronoun. Do you wish she had written "I won't be the nice guy anymore"? That would have sounded ridiculous. Please note that when she points out Linus' behaviour, it is not because she got flamed. She did not get yelled at. The whole issue has nothing to do with her sex. You are trying to turn it into a gender issue, which it is not - regardless of Sarah's stances on that matter.
- nawitus 13y ago
  I don't wish that. I guess this depends on the context. Since she refers to feminism later on in the thread, it increased my confidence that gender was relevant (she commented that she is not a crazy feminist).

She could've presented her critique without turning it into a gender issue: >I won't be the nice girl anymore.

by nawitus 13y ago

She could've presented her critique without turning it into a gender issue: >I won't be the nice girl anymore.

This is also pretty telling: >Snort. Perhaps we haven't interacted very often, but I have never seen you be nice in person at KS. Well, there was that one time you came to me and very quietly explained you had a problem with your USB 3.0 ports, but you came off as "scared to talk to a girl kernel developer" more than "I'm trying to be polite". While verbal abuse is not acceptable, neither is the male-shaming language she is using there.

maqr 13y ago
Wow. How can she possibly think that's an acceptable thing to say in a thread about politeness that she started? Now I'm beginning to wonder if I understand her complaint at all.

samwillis 13y ago

She is not making it into a gender issue. That statement is just the same as if it was a guy making a stand and wrote: I won't be the nice guy anymore.

nawitus 13y ago
The term 'nice guy' is also often used in discussions about gender. Of course that's not the case always. If I hear someone use the term 'nice guy' without context then my first guess is that it's about gender.

James_Duval 13y ago

I don't understand how that turns it into a gender issue. Should she have said "nice guy" instead?

Cthulhu_ 13y ago
I dunno, tbh I think some people are putting too much emphasis on her gender here (OMG A GURL!!one). A gender-neutral phrase would be "I won't be nice anymore", but tbh I don't think she was particularly fussed about her gender or bringing a gender issue into this discussion.

bru 13y ago

I fail to see how she turned it into a gender issue with those words. She's a woman and she's entitled to the use of the correct pronoun. Do you wish she had written "I won't be the nice guy anymore"? That would have sounded ridiculous. Please note that when she points out Linus' behaviour, it is not because she got flamed. She did not get yelled at. The whole issue has nothing to do with her sex. You are trying to turn it into a gender issue, which it is not - regardless of Sarah's stances on that matter.

nawitus 13y ago
I don't wish that. I guess this depends on the context. Since she refers to feminism later on in the thread, it increased my confidence that gender was relevant (she commented that she is not a crazy feminist).