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this is standard anti-male shaming language. it ALWAYS shows up in gender discussions because it's a great way to instantly discredit anyone without actually u
by beachstartup 13y ago
this is standard anti-male shaming language. it ALWAYS shows up in gender discussions because it's a great way to instantly discredit anyone without actually using an argument.
notice how there isn't any actual content in the rebuttal and how it is completely infalsifiable and indefensible. it's the equivalent of dropping the c-word in an argument against a woman.
shaming language against males:
* grow up, be a man, man up
* you're a virgin / inexperienced
* "issues with women"
* you're bitter
* you're scary
* you're a rapist
* you must be gay (not sure why people use this one)
* you hate women
* you have psychological issues
- rmc 13y agoyou must be gay (not sure why people use this one) People use that because they think a man acting like a woman (by having sex with men, by being the receptive partner in sex, by being penetrated, etc.) is a terrible thing for a man to do. Some homophobia is a form of misogyny, hating men who act woman-like.
- sp332 13y agoI think a more relevant interpretation would be that the man has "issues" with women, or hates women etc. and therefore only has relations with men.
- hacker789 13y agoI've seen feminists publicly accuse men of being closeted gays to explain "an otherwise inexplicable hatred of women".
- wonderzombie 13y agoI've seen men publicly accuse feminists of being lesbians to explain "an otherwise inexplicable hatred of men." You're not going to get very far towards any kind of understanding by taking the least worthwhile arguments made by a group of people and projecting that belief on everyone else. That dog won't hunt and it just looks silly.
- hacker789 13y agoWhat's the purpose of this comment? I obviously don't think all feminists walk around saying that. I was simply explaining why that particular shaming tactic was included in the list above.
- rmc 13y agoReally? Got a citation? That sort of homophobia is very uncommon and very unacceptable in many feminist and social justice circles. (e.g. the large reddit subcommunity dedicated to feminism & social justice "ShitRedditSay"/"SRS"/"the Fempire" has a large discussion (SRSDiscussion) with Rule #1 being: "SRSD is a progressive, feminist, antiracist, GSRM-positive, antiableist community", GSRM = gender, sexual & relationship minorities, i.e. anyone not a cis straight monoagomous person. Homophobic language would fall afoul of that)
- ebfe 13y agoWould you agree that shaming lesbians is a form of misandry, hating women who act man-like?
- rmc 13y agoOr it could be seen as hating women who don't act feminine? "misandry" as an institutualised hatred against men for being men and hatred and degeration of masculine things and activity doesn't really exist in the same was people view feminine as weak & not as good exists. There is also a lot of gender roles that people break, which feminism is attempting to break down.