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Sentence 1) I'm a victim. I'm oppressed by women who won't allow me to express my opinion because it differs from theirs. I believe in equality so I guess I'm i

Sentence 1) I'm a victim. I'm oppressed by women who won't allow me to express my opinion because it differs from theirs. I believe in equality so I guess I'm implying they don't. Sentence 2) I'm uncomfortable talking about this so I'll try and say let's not talk about it at all and just focus on some abstract technology discussion. 3) We're doomed. You can't solve the problem. It's just the way it is so leave it the way it is. (I kind of like the status quo even though I was just objecting to a status quo mentality)

overgard 13y ago
He didn't say he was a victim, he said he wasn't willing to converse on terms that he didn't like. That's simply exercising a choice in what sort of conversation is worth your time.
gizmo686 13y ago
Sentence 1 speaks only about the "women in tech" movement. The fact that "women in tech" self selects a mostly women population does not mean that commenting on it is commenting on women. Sentence 2 is again speaking specifically about "women in tech" event, not about talking about the subject. Sentence 3, is admittedly a defeatist attitude. However if there is nothing we can do about it, then why should we waste our time talking about it. In this case it is more of, if the people who are heavilly invested in this have not come up with something we can do about it yet, why should I waste my time unless I want to be a major activist. And, based on point 1, the movement is already hostile to what I have to say, so forget about it. Admitadly, I am probably projecting my own thoughts on sentence 3.
- 3pt14159 13y ago
  Your projections are completely accurate. The only thing I would add is that my own fiancee is a woman in tech (she's a frontend developer), so it isn't like I'm hostile to women in tech or anything.
fosap 13y ago
Sentence 1: If you disagree with something you get nothing but ridicule and insults. You just proved that point. Sorry, some people are just not worth arguing with, for example people with that discussion style, like you and most feminist. Or most fans of homeopathy. Or most jehovah's witnesses. Or other esoteric world views, preferably with a very strong in-group/out-group mentality. Case closed.

overgard 13y ago

He didn't say he was a victim, he said he wasn't willing to converse on terms that he didn't like. That's simply exercising a choice in what sort of conversation is worth your time.

gizmo686 13y ago

Sentence 1 speaks only about the "women in tech" movement. The fact that "women in tech" self selects a mostly women population does not mean that commenting on it is commenting on women. Sentence 2 is again speaking specifically about "women in tech" event, not about talking about the subject. Sentence 3, is admittedly a defeatist attitude. However if there is nothing we can do about it, then why should we waste our time talking about it. In this case it is more of, if the people who are heavilly invested in this have not come up with something we can do about it yet, why should I waste my time unless I want to be a major activist. And, based on point 1, the movement is already hostile to what I have to say, so forget about it. Admitadly, I am probably projecting my own thoughts on sentence 3.

3pt14159 13y ago
Your projections are completely accurate. The only thing I would add is that my own fiancee is a woman in tech (she's a frontend developer), so it isn't like I'm hostile to women in tech or anything.

fosap 13y ago

Sentence 1: If you disagree with something you get nothing but ridicule and insults. You just proved that point. Sorry, some people are just not worth arguing with, for example people with that discussion style, like you and most feminist. Or most fans of homeopathy. Or most jehovah's witnesses. Or other esoteric world views, preferably with a very strong in-group/out-group mentality. Case closed.