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The reason I don't listen to women in tech presentations I assume you mean "I don't listen to 'women in tech' presentations", rather than, "I don't listen to w

The reason I don't listen to women in tech presentations I assume you mean "I don't listen to 'women in tech' presentations", rather than, "I don't listen to women, in tech presentations". The former is a political stance, the latter is excluding an entire sex for unknown reason, even if they are talking of emberjs or thorium.

GhotiFish 13y ago
Yah I read those two sentences as well. A piece of advice from my father: If you have two ways to take something, take it the nice way.
- theorique 13y ago
  Good advice :) I try to follow it in my life.
prawks 13y ago
I'll admit I side with the poster a bit, and I'd definitely agree with the former. The problem is that "women in tech" presentation don't try to fix the root-cause of the issue by giving "men in tech" any reason to believe women should be treated as equals. In my undergraduate studies we had an exceptional student who happened to be female. She gave enlightening and challenging technical presentations that engaged the audience. That's how it should be.
- needacig 13y ago
  > The problem is that "women in tech" presentation don't try to fix the root-cause of the issue by giving "men in tech" any reason to believe women should be treated as equals. Why is your null hypothesis that women shouldn't be treated as equals?
  - reedlaw 13y ago
    I did't read it that way. By having separate presentations for women the implicit message is one of inequality. Why not just "tech" presentations where men and women are equally welcome? The article, on the other hand, seems to be pushing more for indistinguishability rather than equality. E.g.: "That depressing statistic about there being only three female CEOs in the FTSE 100..." It is only depressing if you think men and women being created equal means that they should have a perfect 50/50 split representation across every endeavor.
    - prawks 13y ago
      Correct. Women are equals, there's no reason for them not to be. But until people stop encouraging such a divide, I don't see anything changing.
3pt14159 13y ago
Obviously I don't mean that I don't listen to women. I mean women-in-tech presentations.

GhotiFish 13y ago

Yah I read those two sentences as well. A piece of advice from my father: If you have two ways to take something, take it the nice way.

theorique 13y ago
Good advice :) I try to follow it in my life.

prawks 13y ago

I'll admit I side with the poster a bit, and I'd definitely agree with the former. The problem is that "women in tech" presentation don't try to fix the root-cause of the issue by giving "men in tech" any reason to believe women should be treated as equals. In my undergraduate studies we had an exceptional student who happened to be female. She gave enlightening and challenging technical presentations that engaged the audience. That's how it should be.

needacig 13y ago
> The problem is that "women in tech" presentation don't try to fix the root-cause of the issue by giving "men in tech" any reason to believe women should be treated as equals. Why is your null hypothesis that women shouldn't be treated as equals?
- reedlaw 13y ago
  I did't read it that way. By having separate presentations for women the implicit message is one of inequality. Why not just "tech" presentations where men and women are equally welcome? The article, on the other hand, seems to be pushing more for indistinguishability rather than equality. E.g.: "That depressing statistic about there being only three female CEOs in the FTSE 100..." It is only depressing if you think men and women being created equal means that they should have a perfect 50/50 split representation across every endeavor.
  - prawks 13y ago
    Correct. Women are equals, there's no reason for them not to be. But until people stop encouraging such a divide, I don't see anything changing.

3pt14159 13y ago

Obviously I don't mean that I don't listen to women. I mean women-in-tech presentations.