4 ms·

They'll more likely ignore you, notice their CPM is low, and make the ads more intrusive for the rest. Well done you. If a site is using intrusive or irritatin

by axod 18y ago

They'll more likely ignore you, notice their CPM is low, and make the ads more intrusive for the rest. Well done you. If a site is using intrusive or irritating advertising, don't visit it.

narag 18y ago
If sites ignore individual users' behaviour, wouldn't it be naive to do something expecting to change their advertising patterns? OTOH, if blockers are such a tiny minority, why are you so concerned?
- lucumo 18y ago
  > OTOH, if blockers are such a tiny minority, why are you so concerned? I'm concerned by the general decline of morality online.
enneff 18y ago
Why should I stop? I'm not losing anything. Just because you other suckers want to view ads doesn't mean I should.
- griftah 18y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
  - sho 18y ago
    It's not a "tragedy of the commons", it's the failure of private businesses to monetise their operations without pissing people off so much they go and install special software to avoid it. Big difference.
    - sho 18y ago
      Instead of downmodding, maybe someone would like to point out how I'm wrong? We are talking about private for-profit web sites. They are not a shared public good like rivers, the air, or indeed the english "commons" of old.
      - axod 18y ago
        By using adblock, you're abusing trust. You're assuming the website you visit is going to be intrusive and horrible to you. You're putting your fingers in your ears and saying "Nothing you ever say to me is going to be useful to me". It's anti-social, and if everyone did it, it'd be a horrible world. Imagine if you did that on a personal level - if someone started talking to you about a new movie they saw that they liked, and you instantly cover your ears so you can't hear them.
        enneff 18y ago
        What does this have to do with advertising? Since when is advertsing equated with speech? The type of advertising blocked by Adblock is a form of unsolicited communication. Your analogy is a terrible one, by the way. A better one is picking up an ad-supported magazine, and asking a helpful friend (one whose judgement you trust - the parallel here being to the EasyList maintainers) to rip all the ads out for you before you read it. If people could block ads on TV and in print, prevent themselves from seeing billboards, etc, newsflash: they would! If I could go through my life without being subjected to people trying to sell me stuff all the time, I would be a much happier person. Just because we grew up in a world dominated by consumerism does not mean that's the way it should be, or the only way it can be. If more people were proactive in refusing to be marketed to I believe the benefits would be positive for all of society.
        lucumo 18y ago
        > What does this have to do with advertising? Since when is advertsing equated with speech? The type of advertising blocked by Adblock is a form of unsolicited communication. You solicited it with your visit to the site. You didn't leave when confronted with the choice of using my site and viewing ads or leaving. If you don't like my ads, by all means: LEAVE.

by axod 18y ago

They'll more likely ignore you, notice their CPM is low, and make the ads more intrusive for the rest. Well done you. If a site is using intrusive or irritating advertising, don't visit it.

narag 18y ago

If sites ignore individual users' behaviour, wouldn't it be naive to do something expecting to change their advertising patterns? OTOH, if blockers are such a tiny minority, why are you so concerned?

lucumo 18y ago
> OTOH, if blockers are such a tiny minority, why are you so concerned? I'm concerned by the general decline of morality online.

enneff 18y ago

Why should I stop? I'm not losing anything. Just because you other suckers want to view ads doesn't mean I should.

griftah 18y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
- sho 18y ago
  It's not a "tragedy of the commons", it's the failure of private businesses to monetise their operations without pissing people off so much they go and install special software to avoid it. Big difference.
  - sho 18y ago
    Instead of downmodding, maybe someone would like to point out how I'm wrong? We are talking about private for-profit web sites. They are not a shared public good like rivers, the air, or indeed the english "commons" of old.
    - axod 18y ago
      By using adblock, you're abusing trust. You're assuming the website you visit is going to be intrusive and horrible to you. You're putting your fingers in your ears and saying "Nothing you ever say to me is going to be useful to me". It's anti-social, and if everyone did it, it'd be a horrible world. Imagine if you did that on a personal level - if someone started talking to you about a new movie they saw that they liked, and you instantly cover your ears so you can't hear them.
      - enneff 18y ago
        What does this have to do with advertising? Since when is advertsing equated with speech? The type of advertising blocked by Adblock is a form of unsolicited communication. Your analogy is a terrible one, by the way. A better one is picking up an ad-supported magazine, and asking a helpful friend (one whose judgement you trust - the parallel here being to the EasyList maintainers) to rip all the ads out for you before you read it. If people could block ads on TV and in print, prevent themselves from seeing billboards, etc, newsflash: they would! If I could go through my life without being subjected to people trying to sell me stuff all the time, I would be a much happier person. Just because we grew up in a world dominated by consumerism does not mean that's the way it should be, or the only way it can be. If more people were proactive in refusing to be marketed to I believe the benefits would be positive for all of society.
        lucumo 18y ago
        > What does this have to do with advertising? Since when is advertsing equated with speech? The type of advertising blocked by Adblock is a form of unsolicited communication. You solicited it with your visit to the site. You didn't leave when confronted with the choice of using my site and viewing ads or leaving. If you don't like my ads, by all means: LEAVE.