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Amazon does not use ECC RAM in its AWS servers and the internet seems to work ok.
by bigtones 13y ago
Amazon does not use ECC RAM in its AWS servers and the internet seems to work ok.
- mortehu 13y agoAre you sure? I could not find any reliable source for this, only things like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3898660 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3898660 The same person claiming it then, also claimed that ECC RAM can be twice as expensive, which is far from typical -- it's quite common to see differences of less than 15%. Maybe he was confusing ECC with FB-DIMM?
- zerd 13y agoThe RAM itself isn't much more expensive, but if you're trying to build a cheap Intel computer then it will get much more expensive with ECC, since there are no cheap Intel CPU/mobos with ECC.
- mjn 13y agoIsn't AWS well known for being unreliable, though? One postmortem claims that their average AWS instance dies after 200 days [1]. People use it, but within architectures that plan for unreliability of any individual instance. In that case I wouldn't expect anyone to care about ECC, either, since it's a quite different use-case from wanting a reliable dedicated server. Although it's interesting that Google uses ECC anyway, despite a massively redundant server cluster. [1] http://blog.awe.sm/2012/12/18/aws-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/ http://blog.awe.sm/2012/12/18/aws-the-good-the-bad-and-the-u...
- otterley 13y agoDo you have a source for this statement?
- oddx 13y agoBecause Amazon doesn't want to confirm it I'm pretty sure they don't use ECC.
- bbgm 13y ago(My team owns product management for the Amazon EC2 instance platform) I wanted to clear up all the confusion on this topic and am cross-posting on other threads where this has come up recently. All the hardware underlying Amazon EC2 uses ECC memory. In our experience ECC is a necessary requirement for server infrastructure. We will be updating our detail pages/FAQs with that information.
- vardump 13y agoScary attitude. Lack of ECC in servers has bitten me personally at work to that extent I even use ECC in all of my home desktop computers. Heck, I've been looking for laptops with ECC - unsuccessfully so far. Anything can happen, and it's all up to luck. And I don't want to rely on luck. Although I guess it's ok if all you're doing is serving somewhat unimportant static resources. That said, I think AWS servers do have ECC, but I've got no proof.
- lmz 13y agoIt would seem odd for them to run Xeons and not have ECC RAM with it.
- bigtones 13y agoAmazon reached out to me via email and stated they do use ECC RAM on all servers.