Thomas, I honestly don't understand what you mean. I think perhaps you're suggesting separating the idea of information leakage from talking about those willin

Thomas, I honestly don't understand what you mean. I think perhaps you're suggesting separating the idea of information leakage from talking about those willing to exploit it. That's fine, but it's going to be really difficult to have a long technical conversation about things that might or might not happen without having any person/entity/organization to be doing them. It would be like telling a story without having characters in it. If I understand you correctly, you'd like this to be way too abstract to have much traction with anybody. By all means break out Alice and Bob and have a go at it. But I'm not sure I understand you. I was also not trying to make a political point. I was simply trying to say that if you want to use the term "tinfoil hat people", then acknowledge that the term is a moving target based on a world of contextual information that keeps changing. That's all.