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The hot-or-not craze at least had the decency to allow you to opt-in for judgment.

wushupork 17y ago
point taken. this is a super beta app and many of the desired features were not developed. I wanted to release early and get feedback right away. Would an opt-out be satisfactory?
- sanj 17y ago
  No.
  - deleted 17y ago
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  - thorax 17y ago
    Major upvotes for a single word answer? Please clarify your perspective so he understands why you're so adamant.
    - tptacek 17y ago
      Do you disagree? Why?
      - thorax 17y ago
        I neither disagree or agree-- which is why I'd love more clarification, actually, to understand the positions. Overall, I prefer not to see 1-word answers at the top of any comment chain-- they're upvote bait that are typical of sites that are a lot less useful than HN. They certainly don't promote good discussion! For example, the comment from thesethings helps us understand better the position: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=603676 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=603676
    - imp 17y ago
      I strongly agree, so I voted it up. No need to expand on it.
    - sanj 17y ago
      This has already fallen off the front page, so I'm not sure anyone cares, but... Look, I put my picture onto my Twitter profile for use and recognition by the broader community. So people know who I am. I don't put it out there to be part of some (in my opinion) derivative, uninspired and shallow excuse for "entertainment". No one puts their pictures on Twitter up for that reason. So, if you're going to build something in a race to the bottom, at least have the common decency to tell me that you're lifting my profile picture and give me the option of getting the hell out of there. And don't use my picture until you have my permission. Anything else is just jackassery.
- marcusbooster 17y ago
  At least the ranking system is all positive -- which is probably for the best. If you were to add the ability to down-vote, you'd have to watch out for some random teenage girl waking up one morning to a -50 because her classmates thought it'd be funny. That could lead to some trouble. The site works well, I'm sure there's an audience for it.
- thesethings 17y ago
  I agree with sanj. It has to be opt-in. I realize that's probably a bummer, but Twitshirt recently got into some hot water for pretty much the same dynamic, it was opt-out, and people were like, "how am I even supposed to know about this site?!?" There was a big backlash, they took the site down until it was only opt-in. Plus, the nature of your site, unlike say favrd (which is not opt-out, but you'd only appear there if people loved your tweet, and would never appear there if they didn't) is something people naturally feel self-conscious about, appearance and attractiveness. I do think the functionality and design is really nice though, you did a great job.
  - marcusbooster 17y ago
    Maybe send the person a message saying "please accept this nomination for being wicked hot." Appeals to vanity tend to work.
coglethorpe 17y ago
Opt-in would also help narrow the profiles to real photos of people. I mean, that logo for the corporate account was hot but I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for. You'd also have fewer profiles, giving the chance for more votes for top hotties. And you'd have a better group of people to market dating offers to... :-)

point taken. this is a super beta app and many of the desired features were not developed. I wanted to release early and get feedback right away. Would an opt-out be satisfactory?

sanj 17y ago
No.
- deleted 17y ago
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- thorax 17y ago
  Major upvotes for a single word answer? Please clarify your perspective so he understands why you're so adamant.
  - tptacek 17y ago
    Do you disagree? Why?
    - thorax 17y ago
      I neither disagree or agree-- which is why I'd love more clarification, actually, to understand the positions. Overall, I prefer not to see 1-word answers at the top of any comment chain-- they're upvote bait that are typical of sites that are a lot less useful than HN. They certainly don't promote good discussion! For example, the comment from thesethings helps us understand better the position: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=603676 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=603676
  - imp 17y ago
    I strongly agree, so I voted it up. No need to expand on it.
  - sanj 17y ago
    This has already fallen off the front page, so I'm not sure anyone cares, but... Look, I put my picture onto my Twitter profile for use and recognition by the broader community. So people know who I am. I don't put it out there to be part of some (in my opinion) derivative, uninspired and shallow excuse for "entertainment". No one puts their pictures on Twitter up for that reason. So, if you're going to build something in a race to the bottom, at least have the common decency to tell me that you're lifting my profile picture and give me the option of getting the hell out of there. And don't use my picture until you have my permission. Anything else is just jackassery.
marcusbooster 17y ago
At least the ranking system is all positive -- which is probably for the best. If you were to add the ability to down-vote, you'd have to watch out for some random teenage girl waking up one morning to a -50 because her classmates thought it'd be funny. That could lead to some trouble. The site works well, I'm sure there's an audience for it.
thesethings 17y ago
I agree with sanj. It has to be opt-in. I realize that's probably a bummer, but Twitshirt recently got into some hot water for pretty much the same dynamic, it was opt-out, and people were like, "how am I even supposed to know about this site?!?" There was a big backlash, they took the site down until it was only opt-in. Plus, the nature of your site, unlike say favrd (which is not opt-out, but you'd only appear there if people loved your tweet, and would never appear there if they didn't) is something people naturally feel self-conscious about, appearance and attractiveness. I do think the functionality and design is really nice though, you did a great job.
- marcusbooster 17y ago
  Maybe send the person a message saying "please accept this nomination for being wicked hot." Appeals to vanity tend to work.

coglethorpe 17y ago

Opt-in would also help narrow the profiles to real photos of people. I mean, that logo for the corporate account was hot but I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for. You'd also have fewer profiles, giving the chance for more votes for top hotties. And you'd have a better group of people to market dating offers to... :-)