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To your point ; it's ok to do both. Route 53 supports DNS TTLs as low as 0 seconds. ELB and S3 endpoints both have 60 second TTLs. My experience with flipping
by colmmacc 13y ago
To your point ; it's ok to do both.
Route 53 supports DNS TTLs as low as 0 seconds. ELB and S3 endpoints both have 60 second TTLs. My experience with flipping names like www.amazon.com doesn't reflect the 15% figure. I've seen about 97% of web traffic honouring the TTL and flipping quickly. Within 5 minutes almost all of the rest too. We also take CloudFront sites in and out of service for maintenance, and in 5 years I've never anything like a 15% straggler effect.
That said, we do see a very small number of stragglers. While resolvers over-riding TTLs hasn't shown up as a significant problem, buggy clients can be; we come across clients now and then who either don't re-resolve ever (Various JVMs and their infinite caches are a common cause), or only re-resolve on failures (which is fine for failover, but not great for traffic management).
If you have a distribution time plot for the 15% figure it'd be interesting to see; https://www.dns-oarc.net/ https://www.dns-oarc.net/ would be a good venue, https://lists.dns-oarc.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-operations https://lists.dns-oarc.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-operations is the open list. Ignoring TTLs for a week is very concerning; it would very likely break many DNSSEC configurations. Is it possible you were dealing with robots?
- btilly 13y agoI ran across the "DNS broken for a week", and it was broken for ISPs that run their own DNS for home customers. They didn't want to keep asking for upstream DNS, so just ignored the ttl. But I ran across this around the year 2000. And the biggest offender was named AOL. I could well believe that it is very, very different today.
- ensignavenger 13y agoI don't know that I have ever seen a straggling DNS update take a week, but I have seen many take 3-4 days. Particularly Mediacom customers. I think this situation has improved some, but I still would not consider DNS failover very reliable.
- jedberg 13y agoWhen we flip Netflix domains we see about a 15% straggler effect (although to be fair only about 3% take a week, but many take around 24 hours).
- revertts 13y agoHow much of that 15% is driven by ISPs versus misbehaving clients? (eg. set to boxes)