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As long as the abuse of technology you speak of is them holding onto their power of making money off the convenient on-demand entertainment that they produce an

by talmand 13y ago

As long as the abuse of technology you speak of is them holding onto their power of making money off the convenient on-demand entertainment that they produce and provide, no I don't have a problem with that. Especially when that power does not include the ability to force the consumer to pay for said product whether they want it or not. Wait, what exactly is the abuse of technology we're talking about here?

mwcampbell 13y ago
A serious attempt to implement strong DRM will inevitably go way too deep into the hardware and software stacks. http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html Sony once tried to implement DRM using a rootkit, remember? Also, the movie industry pushed SOPA and PIPA.
- talmand 13y ago
  The link you provide is not evidence of abuse, but of incompetency. Sony's rootkit shenanigans were already illegal under numerous laws in numerous jurisdictions, also an example of incompetency. SOPA and PIPA are examples of abuse on a political level and has little to do with what I'm asking. What abuse of technology provides what power and control over us when we are discussing DRM in the HTML stack? Even if they did get some type of DRM into the HTML stack (which isn't even happening, we're talking extensions here), you as a consumer still have more power and control by refusing to play their game in the first place. Again, what abuse of technology are we talking about here?
  - mwcampbell 13y ago
    OK, I didn't explain in that comment why DRM inevitably goes so deep into the technology stack. See my explanation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6035701 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6035701 Also, DRM gives companies like Netflix, and the developers of the proprietary platforms that Netflix builds on, the power to be gatekeepers.
    - talmand 13y ago
      Yes, it allows them to be gatekeepers. So what? What exactly is forcing you to pay money to go through that gate?

by talmand 13y ago

mwcampbell 13y ago

A serious attempt to implement strong DRM will inevitably go way too deep into the hardware and software stacks. http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html Sony once tried to implement DRM using a rootkit, remember? Also, the movie industry pushed SOPA and PIPA.

talmand 13y ago
The link you provide is not evidence of abuse, but of incompetency. Sony's rootkit shenanigans were already illegal under numerous laws in numerous jurisdictions, also an example of incompetency. SOPA and PIPA are examples of abuse on a political level and has little to do with what I'm asking. What abuse of technology provides what power and control over us when we are discussing DRM in the HTML stack? Even if they did get some type of DRM into the HTML stack (which isn't even happening, we're talking extensions here), you as a consumer still have more power and control by refusing to play their game in the first place. Again, what abuse of technology are we talking about here?
- mwcampbell 13y ago
  OK, I didn't explain in that comment why DRM inevitably goes so deep into the technology stack. See my explanation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6035701 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6035701 Also, DRM gives companies like Netflix, and the developers of the proprietary platforms that Netflix builds on, the power to be gatekeepers.
  - talmand 13y ago
    Yes, it allows them to be gatekeepers. So what? What exactly is forcing you to pay money to go through that gate?