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Sure, but the purpose of HN is specifically to teach people things, and not to create rage. The site guidelines make that pretty clear. Also, is our problem re

Sure, but the purpose of HN is specifically to teach people things, and not to create rage. The site guidelines make that pretty clear. Also, is our problem really that people don't get outraged enough about race? We've had a number of days-long, city-wide street riots about race. That's an awful lot of rage we have already.

wpietri 13y ago
I would find this position more credible if people were downvoting and admonishing all the tech, business, privacy, and government rage. I didn't notice anybody saying, "Hey, let's not get ragey about [the NSA|Apple|patent trolls|Facebook|Google|Congress], we're here to learn, not get upset." You may personally be sincere, and if you have been equally assiduous on all upsetting topics, I commend you. But more generally, I think the sudden tone-policing that appears on race and gender discrimination topics has much more to do with the topic than the tone.
- smtddr 13y ago
  I agree with you...SO MUCH... you don't even know. Has anyone on HN checked out Google+?. Particularly, anytime the official Google account "LifeAtGoogle" posts anything about promoting/highlighting african-americans? It turns into a crazy 100+ comments thread of arguments..every..single..time. I don't see this kind of thing when someone posts about Chinese new-year, or just about any other event about any other group of people. I made the mistake of getting involved in one of those G+ threads and getting myself[1] all heated. Now I don't bother trying to debate. I'm just sad that anytime anything attempting to highlight positive things, or problems, for african-americans turns into a storm of comments almost completely drowning out the original article/story. 1.myself=blackmale EDIT: And now this story has disappeared from the front page superfast(less than 45mins), while the the one about a lady adding "Mr." to her resume remains on front page(For at least 3 hrs now)......
- apsec112 13y ago
  For what it's worth, I'm indeed annoyed at how much front page content has been about the NSA recently, but that issue will eventually blow over. We've been fighting about racism ever since the Three-Fifths Clause was included in the Constitution, over two hundred years ago.
- DanBC 13y ago
  > I didn't notice anybody saying, "Hey, let's not get ragey about [the NSA|Apple|patent trolls|Facebook|Google|Congress], we're here to learn, not get upset." People were saying that. People were flagging those stories. Some people lost their flagging rights because they flagged too much. I still flag some of the [the NSA|Apple|patent trolls|Facebook|Google|Congress] flamebait stories.
codygman 13y ago
As a white male with a black girlfriend: No we don't get outraged enough about racism. The amount of people who don't get what white privilege is or why saying the N-word isn't okay is astounding.

wpietri 13y ago

I would find this position more credible if people were downvoting and admonishing all the tech, business, privacy, and government rage. I didn't notice anybody saying, "Hey, let's not get ragey about [the NSA|Apple|patent trolls|Facebook|Google|Congress], we're here to learn, not get upset." You may personally be sincere, and if you have been equally assiduous on all upsetting topics, I commend you. But more generally, I think the sudden tone-policing that appears on race and gender discrimination topics has much more to do with the topic than the tone.

smtddr 13y ago
I agree with you...SO MUCH... you don't even know. Has anyone on HN checked out Google+?. Particularly, anytime the official Google account "LifeAtGoogle" posts anything about promoting/highlighting african-americans? It turns into a crazy 100+ comments thread of arguments..every..single..time. I don't see this kind of thing when someone posts about Chinese new-year, or just about any other event about any other group of people. I made the mistake of getting involved in one of those G+ threads and getting myself[1] all heated. Now I don't bother trying to debate. I'm just sad that anytime anything attempting to highlight positive things, or problems, for african-americans turns into a storm of comments almost completely drowning out the original article/story. 1.myself=blackmale EDIT: And now this story has disappeared from the front page superfast(less than 45mins), while the the one about a lady adding "Mr." to her resume remains on front page(For at least 3 hrs now)......
apsec112 13y ago
For what it's worth, I'm indeed annoyed at how much front page content has been about the NSA recently, but that issue will eventually blow over. We've been fighting about racism ever since the Three-Fifths Clause was included in the Constitution, over two hundred years ago.
DanBC 13y ago
> I didn't notice anybody saying, "Hey, let's not get ragey about [the NSA|Apple|patent trolls|Facebook|Google|Congress], we're here to learn, not get upset." People were saying that. People were flagging those stories. Some people lost their flagging rights because they flagged too much. I still flag some of the [the NSA|Apple|patent trolls|Facebook|Google|Congress] flamebait stories.

codygman 13y ago

As a white male with a black girlfriend: No we don't get outraged enough about racism. The amount of people who don't get what white privilege is or why saying the N-word isn't okay is astounding.