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Here's The Guardian's LIVE BLOG of the Snowden human rights meeting, and subsequent press conference. (excellent) http://guardiannews.com/world/2013/jul/12/edw

Here's The Guardian's LIVE BLOG of the Snowden human rights meeting, and subsequent press conference. (excellent) http://guardiannews.com/world/2013/jul/12/edward-snowden-to-meet-amnesty-and-human-rights-watch-at-moscow-airport-live-coverag?CMP=twt_gu http://guardiannews.com/world/2013/jul/12/edward-snowden-to-...

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mark_l_watson 13y ago
Thanks, that was useful. Interesting that he is asking for asylum again in Russia, stating that he intends no harm to the USA. "No actions I take or plan are meant to harm the US ... I want the US to succeed." Just my personal opinion, but I believe that Snowden did a good service to citizens of my country (USA). The fact that he probably destroyed his own life doing what he thought was necessary is a mitigating factor in breaking the law. I hope he does not get screwed over too badly and eventually has a normal life.
- teawithcarl 13y ago
  Thanks. Hacker News is censoring me, limiting me to 1-2 posts a day, and quickly flagging all my posts. (This post was flagged also). Notice my comment "posted about" the Guardian LIVE BLOG two hours ago, and yet the LIVE BLOG is only now reaching HN a few minutes ago, by another HN user. That's because HN disallowed my submitting it two hours ago. Keep in mind, I work/research fighting Chinese censorship.
  - phreeza 13y ago
    rate limiting != censorship
    - teawithcarl 13y ago
      To discern the subtle censorship HN is doing, just divide upvotes/minutes on the HN homepage. HN may have decided that "Snowden news" is not hacker news. Definitely, articles are getting flagged.
      - eli 13y ago
        Which is fair -- do we really need 4+ front page stories about this same event?
        mmariani 13y ago
        When something of value to this community I dare to say yes. For instance http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsmw5vkyxT1qba239.png http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsmw5vkyxT1qba239.png
        eli 13y ago
        But most of them link to essentially the same thing, not different perspectives on the same event. It just fragments the discussion.
        mmariani 13y ago
        Yep you're right. In this case we should mainly ignore other sources than those picked by Snowden himself. At least for the sake of keeping the discussions concentrated under trusted posts.
        teawithcarl 13y ago
        The fact remains - the Guardian's LIVE BLOG, which has been the definitive news source of this worldwide news for the last 4-5 hours -- never made it onto HN's homepage.

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mark_l_watson 13y ago

Thanks, that was useful. Interesting that he is asking for asylum again in Russia, stating that he intends no harm to the USA. "No actions I take or plan are meant to harm the US ... I want the US to succeed." Just my personal opinion, but I believe that Snowden did a good service to citizens of my country (USA). The fact that he probably destroyed his own life doing what he thought was necessary is a mitigating factor in breaking the law. I hope he does not get screwed over too badly and eventually has a normal life.

teawithcarl 13y ago
Thanks. Hacker News is censoring me, limiting me to 1-2 posts a day, and quickly flagging all my posts. (This post was flagged also). Notice my comment "posted about" the Guardian LIVE BLOG two hours ago, and yet the LIVE BLOG is only now reaching HN a few minutes ago, by another HN user. That's because HN disallowed my submitting it two hours ago. Keep in mind, I work/research fighting Chinese censorship.
- phreeza 13y ago
  rate limiting != censorship
  - teawithcarl 13y ago
    To discern the subtle censorship HN is doing, just divide upvotes/minutes on the HN homepage. HN may have decided that "Snowden news" is not hacker news. Definitely, articles are getting flagged.
    - eli 13y ago
      Which is fair -- do we really need 4+ front page stories about this same event?
      - mmariani 13y ago
        When something of value to this community I dare to say yes. For instance http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsmw5vkyxT1qba239.png http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsmw5vkyxT1qba239.png
        eli 13y ago
        But most of them link to essentially the same thing, not different perspectives on the same event. It just fragments the discussion.
        mmariani 13y ago
        Yep you're right. In this case we should mainly ignore other sources than those picked by Snowden himself. At least for the sake of keeping the discussions concentrated under trusted posts.
      - teawithcarl 13y ago
        The fact remains - the Guardian's LIVE BLOG, which has been the definitive news source of this worldwide news for the last 4-5 hours -- never made it onto HN's homepage.