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> It's linux without the hassle - a paradise for hackers. Oh please, just because you enjoy the pain of maintaining a second userland on your system doesn't me

by mpk 17y ago

> It's linux without the hassle - a paradise for hackers. Oh please, just because you enjoy the pain of maintaining a second userland on your system doesn't mean we all suffer from that particular affliction. For me it's OSX that's agony to use whereas linux is totally hassle-free.

axod 17y ago
Some enjoy mending everything when some linux dev decides to change to devfs or gcc version etc. I don't. Likewise when updates overwrite config files. It's not fun on a desktop machine. Been there, done that. Wasn't a productive use of my time.
enneff 17y ago
It really depends which hassle you're referring to. All platforms have their issues. I use Linux on my desk at work because all I need there are terminals and a browser. I bought a MacBook because I need to use Photoshop and Reason on the go whilst still having a posix base (and it was a great deal, too). On my deskat home I have a souped-up PC running Windows 7 and a beefy FreeBSD server, so I can do all of the above. All platforms annoy me regularly, sadly.
- axod 17y ago
  * OSX - Desktop PCs * Linux - Servers * Windows - For testing things in IE They all excel at those tasks. Use the right tool for the job and all that ;)
kenver 17y ago
I spent nearly a day messing about with X the other week when I upgraded my Ubuntu install. I really enjoy using Linux, but things like that annoy me. When I'm at home I prefer to do work stuff on my mac, it feels nice, and it provides me the same abilities I have when I'm sat on my Linux machine, but without the 50/50 chance it's all going to go wrong if I change a setting. Everyone here must spend hours at their computer every day, a few quid extra on a nice machine is definitely worth it for me to make that experience better. For me, using both is no more hassle than just using Linux.
tlrobinson 17y ago
I think OS X is "hassle-free" for the things that matter most in a desktop computer. Just today I had to spend 15 minutes searching Google, diving into configuration files, restarting Linux to disable the !@#$ing screensaver that came with this distro. A power user like myself should never have to spend 15 minutes doing something as trivial as that. I'm not really sure what you mean by "maintaining a second userland". All the standard command line tools live in the usual /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin and sbin variants. "/Applications" contains OS X GUI applications, "/Users/username" is your standard home directory (albeit an unconventional path), "/System" and "/Library" should rarely be touched by anything except the system updater and OS X application installers. Integration between the OSXish bits and UNIXy bits is excellent. Drag directories to Terminal.app to get the path, type "pbpaste"/"pbcopy" to access the clipboard, type "open" to open files in OS X apps from the command line, and much more: http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/ancient/whatismacosx//tools.html http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/ancient/whatismacosx//tools.ht...

by mpk 17y ago

axod 17y ago

Some enjoy mending everything when some linux dev decides to change to devfs or gcc version etc. I don't. Likewise when updates overwrite config files. It's not fun on a desktop machine. Been there, done that. Wasn't a productive use of my time.

enneff 17y ago

It really depends which hassle you're referring to. All platforms have their issues. I use Linux on my desk at work because all I need there are terminals and a browser. I bought a MacBook because I need to use Photoshop and Reason on the go whilst still having a posix base (and it was a great deal, too). On my deskat home I have a souped-up PC running Windows 7 and a beefy FreeBSD server, so I can do all of the above. All platforms annoy me regularly, sadly.

axod 17y ago
* OSX - Desktop PCs * Linux - Servers * Windows - For testing things in IE They all excel at those tasks. Use the right tool for the job and all that ;)

kenver 17y ago

I spent nearly a day messing about with X the other week when I upgraded my Ubuntu install. I really enjoy using Linux, but things like that annoy me. When I'm at home I prefer to do work stuff on my mac, it feels nice, and it provides me the same abilities I have when I'm sat on my Linux machine, but without the 50/50 chance it's all going to go wrong if I change a setting. Everyone here must spend hours at their computer every day, a few quid extra on a nice machine is definitely worth it for me to make that experience better. For me, using both is no more hassle than just using Linux.

tlrobinson 17y ago

I think OS X is "hassle-free" for the things that matter most in a desktop computer. Just today I had to spend 15 minutes searching Google, diving into configuration files, restarting Linux to disable the !@#$ing screensaver that came with this distro. A power user like myself should never have to spend 15 minutes doing something as trivial as that. I'm not really sure what you mean by "maintaining a second userland". All the standard command line tools live in the usual /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin and sbin variants. "/Applications" contains OS X GUI applications, "/Users/username" is your standard home directory (albeit an unconventional path), "/System" and "/Library" should rarely be touched by anything except the system updater and OS X application installers. Integration between the OSXish bits and UNIXy bits is excellent. Drag directories to Terminal.app to get the path, type "pbpaste"/"pbcopy" to access the clipboard, type "open" to open files in OS X apps from the command line, and much more: http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/ancient/whatismacosx//tools.html http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/ancient/whatismacosx//tools.ht...