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In reading the Kottke thread for about 30 mins (it rules), I just had this thought: What if Michaelangelo (or some other prolific inventors) weren't that specia

In reading the Kottke thread for about 30 mins (it rules), I just had this thought: What if Michaelangelo (or some other prolific inventors) weren't that special. What if they were simply average Joe's like you and me that were transported back in time. They used their basic knowledge of stuff around them to "invent" things.

piramida 17y ago
assuming that could be true, we get the paradox of "who actually did invent this things, then?" :)
rms 17y ago
Like this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna
zackattack 17y ago
Honestly, besides the natural teleological questions this prompts, if I were transported back to the middle ages there's not all that much I'm sure I could invent. For example, I have no idea how a computer is actually built, from the ground-up. Maybe I could have a few acute scientific observations ("try penicillin!"; "use tungsten for your light bulb!", "b-b-boil that milk!") and I could probably derive Calculus. But... that's about it. The vast majority of human knowledge is culturally transmitted; few humans have cumulative "clones" of the current "repository" of human knowledge stored in their memory.
- eru 17y ago
  Yes. Though knowing that certain directions are promising, would help. You know where to search. For example, I could not build a steam engine, but I know enough to describe how one could build a basic atmospheric steam engine, and that to improve upon it, you'd need to separate the condensation of the steam from the rest of the engine. But I guess I would have a lot of problems, convincing any sane medieval person to take my ideas seriously.
  - khafra 17y ago
    You could leave one helluva Leonardo-style sketch notebook, at the very least, if you could be spared the parchment.
- HeyLaughingBoy 17y ago
  You don't need to invent much. Think of what you already know: Wash your hands before eating; boil the water before drinking; put toilet facilities downstream of drinking water; cover open wounds and keep them clean. In short, you already know about the biggest contribution to human health: Just Stay Clean. Everything else is icing on the cake.

piramida 17y ago

assuming that could be true, we get the paradox of "who actually did invent this things, then?" :)

rms 17y ago

Like this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna

zackattack 17y ago

Honestly, besides the natural teleological questions this prompts, if I were transported back to the middle ages there's not all that much I'm sure I could invent. For example, I have no idea how a computer is actually built, from the ground-up. Maybe I could have a few acute scientific observations ("try penicillin!"; "use tungsten for your light bulb!", "b-b-boil that milk!") and I could probably derive Calculus. But... that's about it. The vast majority of human knowledge is culturally transmitted; few humans have cumulative "clones" of the current "repository" of human knowledge stored in their memory.

eru 17y ago
Yes. Though knowing that certain directions are promising, would help. You know where to search. For example, I could not build a steam engine, but I know enough to describe how one could build a basic atmospheric steam engine, and that to improve upon it, you'd need to separate the condensation of the steam from the rest of the engine. But I guess I would have a lot of problems, convincing any sane medieval person to take my ideas seriously.
- khafra 17y ago
  You could leave one helluva Leonardo-style sketch notebook, at the very least, if you could be spared the parchment.
HeyLaughingBoy 17y ago
You don't need to invent much. Think of what you already know: Wash your hands before eating; boil the water before drinking; put toilet facilities downstream of drinking water; cover open wounds and keep them clean. In short, you already know about the biggest contribution to human health: Just Stay Clean. Everything else is icing on the cake.