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"This is my biggest concern with the idea, which I don't see being addressed (checked the entire conversation on this post to date). I don't think having the vo

"This is my biggest concern with the idea, which I don't see being addressed (checked the entire conversation on this post to date). I don't think having the vote and having the basic income is compatible with each other." If you have well-enough educated, hopefully reasonable people I don't think this will become an issue. Swiss recently voted down to get more holidays ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/switzerland/9138137/Swiss-vote-against-taking-more-holiday.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/switzerland...) and it wasn't even close of getting through. Now this of course doesn't prove anything (we also voted to ban minarets for instance, which definitely wasn't very rationally based), but it shows that people will not just take the short sighted approach only thinking of immediate rewards and instead try take the whole economic outcome into account.

flyinRyan 13y ago
>we also voted to ban minarets for instance, which definitely wasn't very rationally based Of course it was. The law itself was stupid, but it highlighted a real issue. Notice that after that vote France, Sweden and a few others looked at the Muslim integration problem (i.e. a large portion of the Islamic community simply don't) as well. There is an issue here that needs to be addressed, it was just the way they chose to do it was silly but the people didn't let that stop them from using it to voice their opinion.
- inflagranti 13y ago
  The Muslim integration might be real issue, but it's also to a large part fear-based; that was definitely the impression I had back then from the advertisements and the media. In any case, I don't think laws should be enacted just to voice opinions and this one might at the end actually further hinder integration. This is all a bit OT now though :)

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"This is my biggest concern with the idea, which I don't see being addressed (checked the entire conversation on this post to date). I don't think having the vo

by inflagranti 13y ago

flyinRyan 13y ago
>we also voted to ban minarets for instance, which definitely wasn't very rationally based Of course it was. The law itself was stupid, but it highlighted a real issue. Notice that after that vote France, Sweden and a few others looked at the Muslim integration problem (i.e. a large portion of the Islamic community simply don't) as well. There is an issue here that needs to be addressed, it was just the way they chose to do it was silly but the people didn't let that stop them from using it to voice their opinion.
- inflagranti 13y ago
  The Muslim integration might be real issue, but it's also to a large part fear-based; that was definitely the impression I had back then from the advertisements and the media. In any case, I don't think laws should be enacted just to voice opinions and this one might at the end actually further hinder integration. This is all a bit OT now though :)