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Drivel dripping with sarcasm in a one post tumblr blog. I really hope this crap doesn't get any more upvotes. >> The competition and choice is essential to th
by anon987 13y ago
Drivel dripping with sarcasm in a one post tumblr blog. I really hope this crap doesn't get any more upvotes.
>> The competition and choice is essential to the open web. Yet OpenStack wants to be the only game in town?
Yeah, because CloudStack and Eucalyptus are just going to disappear overnight. What do you expect from a presentation given at the OpenStack Summit? "Here's Why CloudStack is Great?" Ya, competition is good so if CloudStack disappears tomorrow you can create your own competitor, what's stopping you?
>> No, absolutely nothing has been commoditized.
Ok.
>> So if I pick up OpenStack or OtherStack they should be basically interchangeable.
They aren't? Given your example of a HTTP server I'm sure I can just slap my httpd.conf onto a ngix server and off I go, right?
>> I’m sorry, but I missed that term in my Operating Systems 101 class. Why? Because there is no definition.
You must have went to a school where you memorized terms and didn't learn to think for yourself. The idea is that OpenStack sits on top of hardware, the same way an OS sit on top of hardware. If you want to get all grammar nazi about it you won't score any points with anyone.
>> So somewhere, at some point, OpenStack completely lost focus and now solely focuses on promoting itself. As though the original problem was that we didn’t have a thing called OpenStack and we have now filled that gap by creating OpenStack.
What does this even mean?
>> So can we get serious now about commoditizing the cloud?
Yeah dude, Amazon, Red Hat, HP, and IBM haven't already done this or anything.
>> I have some thoughts there…
Sure, I'll be back for your 2nd post but I hope it has some actual substance.
- krallin 13y agoTotally agree. I think the problem is that the definition of what a "Cloud Operating system" is actually is quite loose. Mine would include compute, storage, and networking. And truly, by this definition, OpenStack did achieve something and filled a gap, as it integrated all these components (and so did CloudStack / Eucalyptus).
- SebastianStadil 13y agoWikipedia opens up to describe an operating system as "a collection of software that manages computer hardware resources and provides common services for computer programs". Since the majority of the programs we build today run on servers, not desktops, we needed new APIs to compute / storage / network. A new class of OS provides these, which we call IaaS or Cloud Computing. Some of these new OSes also provide the aforementioned 'common services' such as datastores or event loops. I think the excitement lies around having an open source OS for programming your infrastructure to, instead of a (nevertheless excellent) proprietary one.
- calinet6 13y agoI share your criticisms. This article isn't worth the bits it's stored on.