3 ms·

One interesting aspect that the poster brought up was attributing some of the deficiencies to culture. Cultures which emphasize rote memorization in their educa

by kaptain 13y ago

One interesting aspect that the poster brought up was attributing some of the deficiencies to culture. Cultures which emphasize rote memorization in their education are usually maligned by western cultures because they result in individuals who lack the ability to improvise and adapt. Does anyone have any examples that go the other way (i.e. cultural aspects of western education that result in an individual being poorly suited for an occupation...even to the point of causing fatalities like being an airplane pilot)?

HNLogInShit 13y ago
Another thing I hope people note is this: "The other thing that I think plays an important role is the fact that there is virtually NO civil aircraft flying in Korea. Its actually illegal to own a Cessna-152 and just go learn to fly." This is rapidly becoming true in the U.S. as well, but not for legal reasons. For corruption reasons. General-aviation airports are being destroyed at an alarming rate, as local interests seize the land for short-term profit and destroy our national air transportation system. We've all read about it: People move next door to an airport and then start bitching about it. Local politicians are only too happy to pander to them and the deep-pocketed developers who want to move in for the land-grab. Meanwhile, most people have no problem with the airport but no particular reason to fight for it. Right now there's a perfect example of this crime being played out in Santa Monica, CA. Their airport has been there since before WW II, but the people who moved next door to it want to goose their property values once at the expense of an irreplaceable airport. Local politicians are running a sham "airport council" and fraudulent accounting to try to justify stealing the airport from the town, the region, and the nation. Meig's Field in Chicago, destroyed by mayor Daley in the middle of the night in 2003, is another despicable example. This kind of theft will destroy aviation in the U.S. You have to stand up for your local airport. One of the great things about our country is that anyone can learn to fly. You, your friends, your kids. This doesn't exist in Europe (largely thanks to user fees of the kind the Obama administration inexplicably keeps pushing against Congress's wishes). Aviation-technology advances like electric planes and the Terrafugia ("flying car") will also cease if there aren't enough airports left to make their development economically viable.
rdl 13y ago
HNLIS (who replied below): you've been "hellbanned" since your first post. Probably related to your username, since most of your comments seem reasonable. And yes, GA airports are getting shut down, but GA is still more popular in the US than in a lot of other countries. Alaska has a huge amount that is never going to go away, too.
texuf 13y ago
Specifically, I think teaching k-12 is an occupation that requires a great deal of knowledge acquired via route memorization. Anecdotally, my third grade teacher didn't understand long division, my eighth grade history teacher didn't know what an annotated bibliography was, and my 9th grade geometry teacher was debilitatingly dyslexic. While this didn't kill me, millions of Americans graduating college are crippled by debt - perhaps because they couldn't do the simple math required to make a budget and understand what would be required to pay it back?
- rwallace 13y ago
  My experience is that it's not a problem when a teacher doesn't know some particular fact from memory as long as he can say "I'll get back to you on that," and subsequently go and look it up. I suspect the people falling into the college debt trap are by and large not doing so because they couldn't do the math. I suspect they are doing so because they didn't realize in the first place that they should make the decision with the part of their brain that does math calculations rather than the part that does social status calculations.

by kaptain 13y ago

HNLogInShit 13y ago

Another thing I hope people note is this: "The other thing that I think plays an important role is the fact that there is virtually NO civil aircraft flying in Korea. Its actually illegal to own a Cessna-152 and just go learn to fly." This is rapidly becoming true in the U.S. as well, but not for legal reasons. For corruption reasons. General-aviation airports are being destroyed at an alarming rate, as local interests seize the land for short-term profit and destroy our national air transportation system. We've all read about it: People move next door to an airport and then start bitching about it. Local politicians are only too happy to pander to them and the deep-pocketed developers who want to move in for the land-grab. Meanwhile, most people have no problem with the airport but no particular reason to fight for it. Right now there's a perfect example of this crime being played out in Santa Monica, CA. Their airport has been there since before WW II, but the people who moved next door to it want to goose their property values once at the expense of an irreplaceable airport. Local politicians are running a sham "airport council" and fraudulent accounting to try to justify stealing the airport from the town, the region, and the nation. Meig's Field in Chicago, destroyed by mayor Daley in the middle of the night in 2003, is another despicable example. This kind of theft will destroy aviation in the U.S. You have to stand up for your local airport. One of the great things about our country is that anyone can learn to fly. You, your friends, your kids. This doesn't exist in Europe (largely thanks to user fees of the kind the Obama administration inexplicably keeps pushing against Congress's wishes). Aviation-technology advances like electric planes and the Terrafugia ("flying car") will also cease if there aren't enough airports left to make their development economically viable.

rdl 13y ago

HNLIS (who replied below): you've been "hellbanned" since your first post. Probably related to your username, since most of your comments seem reasonable. And yes, GA airports are getting shut down, but GA is still more popular in the US than in a lot of other countries. Alaska has a huge amount that is never going to go away, too.

texuf 13y ago

Specifically, I think teaching k-12 is an occupation that requires a great deal of knowledge acquired via route memorization. Anecdotally, my third grade teacher didn't understand long division, my eighth grade history teacher didn't know what an annotated bibliography was, and my 9th grade geometry teacher was debilitatingly dyslexic. While this didn't kill me, millions of Americans graduating college are crippled by debt - perhaps because they couldn't do the simple math required to make a budget and understand what would be required to pay it back?

rwallace 13y ago
My experience is that it's not a problem when a teacher doesn't know some particular fact from memory as long as he can say "I'll get back to you on that," and subsequently go and look it up. I suspect the people falling into the college debt trap are by and large not doing so because they couldn't do the math. I suspect they are doing so because they didn't realize in the first place that they should make the decision with the part of their brain that does math calculations rather than the part that does social status calculations.