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You encounter a lot of this behaviour in students when they show up in a research lab for the first time, having taken only lab classes and lectures before, and

You encounter a lot of this behaviour in students when they show up in a research lab for the first time, having taken only lab classes and lectures before, and it isn't at all confined to East Asians. It's always a shock to see that your experiments don't turn out as intended and to recognize that all the class exercises have some bearing in real life, so to speak. Some people never make the transition to independent work, and those are handed their ass fairly quickly, at least in a working lab. If what the fellow writes in this article is true, KAL and friends have some work to do.

hkmurakami 13y ago
makes sense, both the head and copilot on this flight were relatively inexperienced on the 777. I wonder if the Airline had laid off their veteran (and hence high earning) pilots earlier (which would have exacerbated such a situation with inexperienced pilots); it's certainly not unheard of in the industry. Lastly, apparently the Asiana Air CEO has been quoted as saying that all responsibility lies with the pilots and that he and/or the company are not responsible. Great to know that your boss has your back >_>
- kryptiskt 13y ago
  > Lastly, apparently the Asiana Air CEO has been quoted as saying that all responsibility lies with the pilots and that he and/or the company are not responsible. Great to know that your boss has your back So who is responsible for hiring good pilots?
  - jrs99 13y ago
    It's like blaming the designers for the Pontiac Aztek.
  - badclient 13y ago
    So who is responsible for hiring a good CEO? So who is responsible for hiring a good board? So who is responsible for getting good owners? So where does the buck stop?
- yread 13y ago
  > both the head and copilot on this flight were relatively inexperienced on the 777 The training pilot had 3220 hours on the 777, that's pretty experienced I would say. It's probably more time than I've spent walking. It was his first flight as a training captain, though
  - stcredzero 13y ago
    Read the quoted bit about hour inflation in the comment from the instructor. On actual flights, the actual stick time can be on the order of T/200 or so.

hkmurakami 13y ago

makes sense, both the head and copilot on this flight were relatively inexperienced on the 777. I wonder if the Airline had laid off their veteran (and hence high earning) pilots earlier (which would have exacerbated such a situation with inexperienced pilots); it's certainly not unheard of in the industry. Lastly, apparently the Asiana Air CEO has been quoted as saying that all responsibility lies with the pilots and that he and/or the company are not responsible. Great to know that your boss has your back >_>

kryptiskt 13y ago
> Lastly, apparently the Asiana Air CEO has been quoted as saying that all responsibility lies with the pilots and that he and/or the company are not responsible. Great to know that your boss has your back So who is responsible for hiring good pilots?
- jrs99 13y ago
  It's like blaming the designers for the Pontiac Aztek.
- badclient 13y ago
  So who is responsible for hiring a good CEO? So who is responsible for hiring a good board? So who is responsible for getting good owners? So where does the buck stop?
yread 13y ago
> both the head and copilot on this flight were relatively inexperienced on the 777 The training pilot had 3220 hours on the 777, that's pretty experienced I would say. It's probably more time than I've spent walking. It was his first flight as a training captain, though
- stcredzero 13y ago
  Read the quoted bit about hour inflation in the comment from the instructor. On actual flights, the actual stick time can be on the order of T/200 or so.