Right - but some people want to play team games. I very much prefer cooperative type play to solo play, and that's obviously the case for a great number of peop

Right - but some people want to play team games. I very much prefer cooperative type play to solo play, and that's obviously the case for a great number of people. Perhaps un-surprisingly, sucking in Starcraft team games (or Call of Duty, or Team Fortress) can be every bit as brutal as in Dota game. The problem isn't DOTA (though for obvious reasons its more extreme) - its the general format of unorganized online competitive team play. If I'm bad at Starcraft for instance, and get thrown onto a ranked team game - my team suffers, and balance can only control so much of that. The social infrastructure is too limited to be effective at preventing things like rude comments, scapegoating, lack of mentoring, or easy pairing with people you enjoy playing with. Immature young adults + no consequences + people they'll never see again = crap behavior. And sadly, the social features haven't progressed (in some cases regressed) since I played TF 15 years ago.