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We should all remember that regular police in Britain don't carry guns. The guns are carried by special units that get called in when a suspect is thought to ha
by lkrubner 13y ago
We should all remember that regular police in Britain don't carry guns. The guns are carried by special units that get called in when a suspect is thought to have a weapon.
I was in London in May when 2 men attacked a British solider and beheaded him on a public street, on the south side of London. One of the men was seen to have a gun, so the regular police called for the armed police. The armed police showed up 15 minutes later.
What was amazing to me (I'm a USA citizen) given the brutality of the attack, was the absolute calm with which everyone dealt with it. The public, the commentators in the media, the police, they all talked about the incident in a reasonable way, noting that tragedy can not be banned from human life. There were no calls for suspending civil liberties so as to keep the public safe. It was one of those moments when I realized how far my own country had wandered from its supposed commitment to freedom.
Also worth noting, the 2 attackers spoke to various bystanders, before the police arrived. Several bystanders captured the scene on their cell phone videos. The attackers repeated rhetoric that was Islamist in nature, and they used rhetorical flourishes that, I later read, had similarities to some Al Qaeda propaganda. Despite that, the media was restrained in its treatment of the religious/terrorist angle.
There may, at some point in the future, be a similar attack in the USA, where some men espousing a radical Islamist view kill an American soldier. I doubt the political reaction will be as calm in the USA as it was in Britain.
- swombat 13y agoThere were no calls for suspending civil liberties so as to keep the public safe. Actually, the incident gave rise to a lot of noise from some politicians about how they needed to introduce the "Snooper's charter" which was previously rejected, so that they could stop these kinds of crimes before they happened, etc. This only got drowned out when Snowden started releasing the stuff that shows that they didn't wait for any Snooper's charter anyway.
- res0nat0r 13y ago>There were no calls for suspending civil liberties so as to keep the public safe. It was one of those moments when I realized how far my own country had wandered from its supposed commitment to freedom. There has been a rash of 7 shootings in the last 5 days in my town. Nine people were shot and 5 killed. I haven't heard anything calling for any suspension of civil liberties... The quote above sounds like misunderstanding and repetition of the false info that during the Boston neighborhood manhunt martial law was declared, which is actually incorrect.
- JulianMorrison 13y agoThey don't carry guns, but they still are wrapped up in shank-proof vests and bristling with a Batman belt of cuffs and batons and gadgets. And if there are such scary things as students protesting university fees, they'll happily get up in full riot gear, stomp people, and then kettle them. Don't mistake British police for nonviolent.