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I don't see hatred for him being a conservative - I see a dislike for him spending lots of money to keep a minority from having rights. His version of intolera

I don't see hatred for him being a conservative - I see a dislike for him spending lots of money to keep a minority from having rights. His version of intolerance towards homosexuals was spending money to prevent them from having rights. Their version of intolerance is to attempt to convince people not to see his movie or buy his book. I don't think the second qualifies as intolerance. I also think it is completely within someones interest to speak out against supporting those who oppress them. There are plenty of interesting and great science fiction books or movies written by decent, reasonable people that could be supported instead. Also I the links in this thread show a side of the books that is far from "apolitical", although they were moving and profound for me.

swamp40 13y ago
> Also I the links in this thread show a side of the books that is far from "apolitical", although they were moving and profound for me. Ender's Game STILL sells 100K-200K copies per year. It is HUGELY popular, so of course some people on the internet are going to ride the publicity coat-tails by smashing it. Just because two academics find a way to compare the plot to the life of HITLER does NOT mean that Mr. Card had that in mind AT ALL.
- minikites 13y ago
  From the Kuro5hin article: > On the phone and in his incoherent published reply, Card repeatedly shows ignorance of what he himself purportedly wrote. I simply cannot imagine how you could write such a stunningly well crafted piece of work (inasmuch as it is wildly popular and deeply affects people) without being aware of every fibre and splinter of its composition. About the third or fourth time I heard Card say something wasn't in his book that I knew was, I began to suspect that it was more of a committee effort. > Notice that even John Kessel distances himself from the Hitler Hypothesis even though he draws many of the same conclusions Elaine does. Card manages to sound very convincing when he says Hitler was never on his mind and that it's Elaine who has the Hitler obsession; I think he's so convincing because he wasn't in on the joke himself. Elaine's essay may have been as much a revelation to him as it was to anyone else. > I've seen Elaine's notes and heard Card on the phone, and there is no doubt in my mind that the Hitler Hypothesis is correct; it is simply impossible that Ender's Game and Speaker were written by someone who did not have a very detailed knowledge of Adolph Hitler's life. There are very exact parallels in there that you wouldn't even notice unless you read the footnotes to the most detailed Hitler biographies. I also tend to believe that Card does not have that level of knowledge about Hitler. Ergo, it is very hard for me to believe that he wrote the books. The assumption that he did not explains a great many otherwise mysterious things.

swamp40 13y ago

> Also I the links in this thread show a side of the books that is far from "apolitical", although they were moving and profound for me. Ender's Game STILL sells 100K-200K copies per year. It is HUGELY popular, so of course some people on the internet are going to ride the publicity coat-tails by smashing it. Just because two academics find a way to compare the plot to the life of HITLER does NOT mean that Mr. Card had that in mind AT ALL.

minikites 13y ago
From the Kuro5hin article: > On the phone and in his incoherent published reply, Card repeatedly shows ignorance of what he himself purportedly wrote. I simply cannot imagine how you could write such a stunningly well crafted piece of work (inasmuch as it is wildly popular and deeply affects people) without being aware of every fibre and splinter of its composition. About the third or fourth time I heard Card say something wasn't in his book that I knew was, I began to suspect that it was more of a committee effort. > Notice that even John Kessel distances himself from the Hitler Hypothesis even though he draws many of the same conclusions Elaine does. Card manages to sound very convincing when he says Hitler was never on his mind and that it's Elaine who has the Hitler obsession; I think he's so convincing because he wasn't in on the joke himself. Elaine's essay may have been as much a revelation to him as it was to anyone else. > I've seen Elaine's notes and heard Card on the phone, and there is no doubt in my mind that the Hitler Hypothesis is correct; it is simply impossible that Ender's Game and Speaker were written by someone who did not have a very detailed knowledge of Adolph Hitler's life. There are very exact parallels in there that you wouldn't even notice unless you read the footnotes to the most detailed Hitler biographies. I also tend to believe that Card does not have that level of knowledge about Hitler. Ergo, it is very hard for me to believe that he wrote the books. The assumption that he did not explains a great many otherwise mysterious things.