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You can rule out Bulgaria - the majority of IT there is HP(crap), vmware(crap), SAP (crap), telerik (almost crap), moneybookers/skrill - acceptable. The start-u

You can rule out Bulgaria - the majority of IT there is HP(crap), vmware(crap), SAP (crap), telerik (almost crap), moneybookers/skrill - acceptable. The start-up scene is nonexistent and people go for cool social or educational if they do something. Majority of developers are Java, C# or PHP with lack of desire to extend their skill set and feeling good in institutional environment.

robotomir 13y ago
Oh yeah? In what universe are the folks that work at VMware and Telerik crap, while Moneybookers is acceptable? Mightily smart and motivated people work in some of the big companies, and I've seen instances where bright sparks leave the corporate world to try and turn their own ideas into reality. This is not a down-sloping trendline.
- venomsnake 13y ago
  I meant that the companies are crappy. Not the developers. Almost everyone I know from there - are competent enough architecture astronauts. There are few real hackers left from the glory days of SMG/NPMG/TU but are definitely not a majority.
  - adambard 13y ago
    Best hacker I ever met was Bulgarian. Just anecdotally.
dakrisht 13y ago
You can rule out this post as having any sort of relevance or concrete information with regards to this article. There's just so much utter waste in here from saying that VMWare is crap, to the "majority of IT" being HP to claiming that there is a "non-existent startup scene." Java, C# and PHP? LOL Do you even know what those are? Android apps are written in Java, Europe and the rest of the world is predominantly Android driven, PHP is one of the most robust and popular server-side languages in the world. You sir, are smoking the good stuff! Some of the smartest and most brilliant engineers have come and continue to come out of Bulgaria and that part of the world in general; the first digital computer was invented by a Bulgarian! Good god man.
- venomsnake 13y ago
  I am a Bulgarian living in Bulgaria at the moment with experience of assembling a few startup teams already. There are major problems with the talent and their attitude. And a lot of the top people just move out of the country. Bulgaria is a not a good place for startup right now - too much regulation, too much bureaucracy insanity, very high hidden taxes and broken and chronically underfunded high education system.

robotomir 13y ago

Oh yeah? In what universe are the folks that work at VMware and Telerik crap, while Moneybookers is acceptable? Mightily smart and motivated people work in some of the big companies, and I've seen instances where bright sparks leave the corporate world to try and turn their own ideas into reality. This is not a down-sloping trendline.

venomsnake 13y ago
I meant that the companies are crappy. Not the developers. Almost everyone I know from there - are competent enough architecture astronauts. There are few real hackers left from the glory days of SMG/NPMG/TU but are definitely not a majority.
- adambard 13y ago
  Best hacker I ever met was Bulgarian. Just anecdotally.

dakrisht 13y ago

You can rule out this post as having any sort of relevance or concrete information with regards to this article. There's just so much utter waste in here from saying that VMWare is crap, to the "majority of IT" being HP to claiming that there is a "non-existent startup scene." Java, C# and PHP? LOL Do you even know what those are? Android apps are written in Java, Europe and the rest of the world is predominantly Android driven, PHP is one of the most robust and popular server-side languages in the world. You sir, are smoking the good stuff! Some of the smartest and most brilliant engineers have come and continue to come out of Bulgaria and that part of the world in general; the first digital computer was invented by a Bulgarian! Good god man.

venomsnake 13y ago
I am a Bulgarian living in Bulgaria at the moment with experience of assembling a few startup teams already. There are major problems with the talent and their attitude. And a lot of the top people just move out of the country. Bulgaria is a not a good place for startup right now - too much regulation, too much bureaucracy insanity, very high hidden taxes and broken and chronically underfunded high education system.