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With Plug, Create A Personal, Subscription-Free Dropbox With Your USB Drives

43 points by iProject 13y ago

codereflection 13y ago
If it's true that they've gotten it to punch thru any main NAT & firewall they've tested it's already ahead of Bitcasa, who STILL hasn't added proxy settings to their client.
captiva12 13y ago
how different it is from TonidoPlug? TonidoPlug also provides personal cloud sync.
EvanAnderson 13y ago
Here's their Kickstarter: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cloud-guys/plug-the-brain-of-your-devices http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cloud-guys/plug-the-brai... They mention in the "The Tech" section that they're doing a VPN between the "Plug" and clients and that they've gotten it to punch thru "any main NAT & firewall we tested" and further say "it's decentralized when possible" but don't go into any more specifics. I'd like to know what their mechanism is for resolving the Plug's public IP address. Presumably they'll be running some dynamic DNS servers or some proprietary location protocol but since they make a point of saying they're not a subscription service I am immediately dubious as to how they plan to continue to finance running those servers. This entire class of products just makes me sad. It would be really neat to live in a world where the bandwidth (and lack of transfer quotas) actually existed that would permit us to take advantage of the exceedingly cheap large storage devices that we can purchase and put on our home and business networks. I don't see that world existing any time soon, at least in the United States.
- bytelayer 13y ago
  I'm guessing they're running a reverse SSH tunnel through their own servers which your devices then connect to to get to your hard drive. Probably connecting to a common port such as 80 or 443 to avoid any issues with firewalls.
drivebyacct2 13y ago
I can't wait for Camlistore to keep progessing. Eventually all of these "personal clouds" will just be a tiny "app" floating on top of Camlistore.
salibhai 13y ago
Does Plug provide any redundancy or "RAID" like features?
- post_break 13y ago
  That would fall onto the hard drive you plug into it I bet.
- mayneack 13y ago
  Looks like you can pay $5/month to do it on their servers. No idea on the purely local solution
  - Davertron 13y ago
    I didn't see anything about them having their own servers, but they do mention you can use something like BitCasa or Carbonite along side Plug, which run about $5/month for unlimited backups.
- bigiain 13y ago
  The Kickstarter blurb (and rewards options) talk about using multiple Plug devices to store redundant and off-site copies. "You can install one Plug in your home and one in your office, for example. Your Plugs will automatically work together to replicate your content. Two Plugs are enough. But with each Plug you buy, your data gets more secure and also faster to access. If some of your friends have Plug, you can also ask your Plugs to back up each other's content. Your data is encrypted, so your friends will not be able to read it." Like much of their Kickstarter copy - for me that's enough to make me interested, but not quite enough to explain to me what's actually going on. (Having said that, it's probably _fabulous_ marketing copy - I'm _very_ close to plunking down a $129 pledge to get a pair of them…)
mlschmitt23 13y ago
Reminds me of Pogoplug.
- rexreed 13y ago
  That's what I was thinking. The only issue is accessing PogoPlug as a file system. I had to access it as root and create a Samba share, but it's not very reliable. I have one of the older PogoPlugs (pink).
  - mlschmitt23 13y ago
    Me too! I ran into the same sort limitations, eventually hacked it into some sort of linux server. I've probably still got the pink guy at the bottom of some junk box somewhere.
acadien 13y ago
What is the advantage over dropbox? My dropbox app already automagically uploads photos taken from my phone. Am I missing something?
- WalterSear 13y ago
  No monthly fee for unlimited storage.
- qznc 13y ago
  Harder for the NSA to access.
zedpm 13y ago
From their Kickstarter: "With Plug, we invented a technology to transfer files instantly. No matter their size, no matter their number." I hate to see an interesting project make silly claims like that. Whatever the truth of the matter is, it won't match what they seem to be implying.
- adrinavarro 13y ago
  They likely mean sending an authorization to your files instead of the actual files. Which is very, very silly as a claim.
yoda_sl 13y ago
Looks in some way similar in concept of File Transporter from Connected Data: http://www.filetransporter.com http://www.filetransporter.com
webwanderings 13y ago
Wait, so I have to keep my computer ON (the one which has this USB device connected) and I am supposed to feel I am using Dropbox? I could do a whole lot more if I could keep one of my computer ON 24x7x365 without using a $69 device.
- EvanAnderson 13y ago
  The computer with the USB devices connected is the "Plug" itself. It's just a tiny embedded server w/ a USB device port on one end and wired Ethernet on the other.
rexreed 13y ago
How is this similar to or different from PogoPlug? http://pogoplug.com/devices http://pogoplug.com/devices
unsignedint 13y ago
Not sure how this is better than BitTorrent Sync http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html. BTSync runs on many NASes, and $40 Raspberry Pi.

43 points by iProject 13y ago

If it's true that they've gotten it to punch thru any main NAT & firewall they've tested it's already ahead of Bitcasa, who STILL hasn't added proxy settings to their client.

captiva12 13y ago

how different it is from TonidoPlug? TonidoPlug also provides personal cloud sync.

EvanAnderson 13y ago

Here's their Kickstarter: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cloud-guys/plug-the-brain-of-your-devices http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cloud-guys/plug-the-brai... They mention in the "The Tech" section that they're doing a VPN between the "Plug" and clients and that they've gotten it to punch thru "any main NAT & firewall we tested" and further say "it's decentralized when possible" but don't go into any more specifics. I'd like to know what their mechanism is for resolving the Plug's public IP address. Presumably they'll be running some dynamic DNS servers or some proprietary location protocol but since they make a point of saying they're not a subscription service I am immediately dubious as to how they plan to continue to finance running those servers. This entire class of products just makes me sad. It would be really neat to live in a world where the bandwidth (and lack of transfer quotas) actually existed that would permit us to take advantage of the exceedingly cheap large storage devices that we can purchase and put on our home and business networks. I don't see that world existing any time soon, at least in the United States.

bytelayer 13y ago
I'm guessing they're running a reverse SSH tunnel through their own servers which your devices then connect to to get to your hard drive. Probably connecting to a common port such as 80 or 443 to avoid any issues with firewalls.

drivebyacct2 13y ago

I can't wait for Camlistore to keep progessing. Eventually all of these "personal clouds" will just be a tiny "app" floating on top of Camlistore.

salibhai 13y ago

Does Plug provide any redundancy or "RAID" like features?

post_break 13y ago
That would fall onto the hard drive you plug into it I bet.
mayneack 13y ago
Looks like you can pay $5/month to do it on their servers. No idea on the purely local solution
- Davertron 13y ago
  I didn't see anything about them having their own servers, but they do mention you can use something like BitCasa or Carbonite along side Plug, which run about $5/month for unlimited backups.
bigiain 13y ago
The Kickstarter blurb (and rewards options) talk about using multiple Plug devices to store redundant and off-site copies. "You can install one Plug in your home and one in your office, for example. Your Plugs will automatically work together to replicate your content. Two Plugs are enough. But with each Plug you buy, your data gets more secure and also faster to access. If some of your friends have Plug, you can also ask your Plugs to back up each other's content. Your data is encrypted, so your friends will not be able to read it." Like much of their Kickstarter copy - for me that's enough to make me interested, but not quite enough to explain to me what's actually going on. (Having said that, it's probably _fabulous_ marketing copy - I'm _very_ close to plunking down a $129 pledge to get a pair of them…)

mlschmitt23 13y ago

Reminds me of Pogoplug.

rexreed 13y ago
That's what I was thinking. The only issue is accessing PogoPlug as a file system. I had to access it as root and create a Samba share, but it's not very reliable. I have one of the older PogoPlugs (pink).
- mlschmitt23 13y ago
  Me too! I ran into the same sort limitations, eventually hacked it into some sort of linux server. I've probably still got the pink guy at the bottom of some junk box somewhere.

acadien 13y ago

What is the advantage over dropbox? My dropbox app already automagically uploads photos taken from my phone. Am I missing something?

WalterSear 13y ago
No monthly fee for unlimited storage.
qznc 13y ago
Harder for the NSA to access.

zedpm 13y ago

From their Kickstarter: "With Plug, we invented a technology to transfer files instantly. No matter their size, no matter their number." I hate to see an interesting project make silly claims like that. Whatever the truth of the matter is, it won't match what they seem to be implying.

adrinavarro 13y ago
They likely mean sending an authorization to your files instead of the actual files. Which is very, very silly as a claim.

yoda_sl 13y ago

Looks in some way similar in concept of File Transporter from Connected Data: http://www.filetransporter.com http://www.filetransporter.com

webwanderings 13y ago

Wait, so I have to keep my computer ON (the one which has this USB device connected) and I am supposed to feel I am using Dropbox? I could do a whole lot more if I could keep one of my computer ON 24x7x365 without using a $69 device.

EvanAnderson 13y ago
The computer with the USB devices connected is the "Plug" itself. It's just a tiny embedded server w/ a USB device port on one end and wired Ethernet on the other.

rexreed 13y ago

How is this similar to or different from PogoPlug? http://pogoplug.com/devices http://pogoplug.com/devices

unsignedint 13y ago

Not sure how this is better than BitTorrent Sync http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html. BTSync runs on many NASes, and $40 Raspberry Pi.