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Give me a call back when Amazon removes the drm from their file formats and I'll give a flying fuck about what's legal or not.

fpgeek 13y ago
To be fair, any book a publisher wants sold DRM-free, Amazon sells DRM-free. Many publishers insist on DRM as a condition of sale. Your beef is with them, not Amazon. And by the way, DRM is at the heart of this ebook conspiracy. One of the publishers' fears was that too many readers would be trapped in Amazon's ecosystem by DRM, giving Amazon too much leverage. The correct response to that problem is to drop the pointless, self-inflicted DRM (as some have started doing in response to the antitrust cases). Instead, the publishers chose to work with Apple to try and limit Amazon's power...
- ernesth 13y ago
  > To be fair, any book a publisher wants sold DRM-free, Amazon sells DRM-free. But only after threatening them that their books won't benefit from the latest amazon technologies such as text-to-speech if they opt out of DRM!
  - fpgeek 13y ago
    Oh? I hadn't heard about that. It certainly sounds bad. Do you have a pointer to more on this?
    - ernesth 13y ago
      Yes, in french unfortunately: http://lexbrage.tumblr.com/post/13212628647/amazon-bragelonne-drm http://lexbrage.tumblr.com/post/13212628647/amazon-bragelonn... "Nous avons rencontré [Amazon] recemment pour comprendre cet ajout de DRM sur nos titres et en quoi consitait cette DRM un peu spéciale. [...Elle] embarque également une couche software qui active les fonctionnalités de l’ecosystème Amazon. La liste est variée mais passe du “Text to Speech” au “Facebook Connect” et toutes les prochaines évolutions d’Amazon. Et croyez moi, elle vont être nombreuses dans les mois à venir." Quick translation: we (the publisher bragelonne) have met with amazon to understand why they added DRM to our books without our consent and what purpose this DRM served. [...] It contains a software part that enables various amazon features such as Text-to-speech or facebook connect as well as the many future evolutions.
azernik 13y ago
iBookstore has DRM too, you know. It's not like Apple is morally superior from that perspective.

fpgeek 13y ago

To be fair, any book a publisher wants sold DRM-free, Amazon sells DRM-free. Many publishers insist on DRM as a condition of sale. Your beef is with them, not Amazon. And by the way, DRM is at the heart of this ebook conspiracy. One of the publishers' fears was that too many readers would be trapped in Amazon's ecosystem by DRM, giving Amazon too much leverage. The correct response to that problem is to drop the pointless, self-inflicted DRM (as some have started doing in response to the antitrust cases). Instead, the publishers chose to work with Apple to try and limit Amazon's power...

ernesth 13y ago
> To be fair, any book a publisher wants sold DRM-free, Amazon sells DRM-free. But only after threatening them that their books won't benefit from the latest amazon technologies such as text-to-speech if they opt out of DRM!
- fpgeek 13y ago
  Oh? I hadn't heard about that. It certainly sounds bad. Do you have a pointer to more on this?
  - ernesth 13y ago
    Yes, in french unfortunately: http://lexbrage.tumblr.com/post/13212628647/amazon-bragelonne-drm http://lexbrage.tumblr.com/post/13212628647/amazon-bragelonn... "Nous avons rencontré [Amazon] recemment pour comprendre cet ajout de DRM sur nos titres et en quoi consitait cette DRM un peu spéciale. [...Elle] embarque également une couche software qui active les fonctionnalités de l’ecosystème Amazon. La liste est variée mais passe du “Text to Speech” au “Facebook Connect” et toutes les prochaines évolutions d’Amazon. Et croyez moi, elle vont être nombreuses dans les mois à venir." Quick translation: we (the publisher bragelonne) have met with amazon to understand why they added DRM to our books without our consent and what purpose this DRM served. [...] It contains a software part that enables various amazon features such as Text-to-speech or facebook connect as well as the many future evolutions.

azernik 13y ago

iBookstore has DRM too, you know. It's not like Apple is morally superior from that perspective.