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This seems incredibly one sided to me and I'm surprised at the number of people who are in agreement. I guess if you make the assumption that the person is lazy

by wf 13y ago

This seems incredibly one sided to me and I'm surprised at the number of people who are in agreement. I guess if you make the assumption that the person is lazy or inefficient and that's the reason they're working hard then this would make sense. However, I'm 24; I work a day job from 8 to 5; I go to the gym and go home and work on a startup from ~7-12 and do it all over again. And yea, I'm proud of that. Not only that, but I like when I see other people who "#hustle" because it motivates me. I like to know my friends or people I respect are working hard to achieve a goal they're excited about. Also "Working hard vs working smart is something you don't learn till you burn out a few times." What? That is just untrue. I agree after you do something the first time you'll definitely become more efficient at executing it, but if you approach problems practically you can almost always break them down and work them "smart". This post just annoys me.

Ataub24 13y ago
sorry man. I hear you. the point isn't to bash working hard- it pushes a bit that you should work hard + smart. it's more of a rant about pushing that out to the twitterz/4sq. I mean how many successful people actually push out how hard they are working and how much shit they are getting done? I can't count any. can't agree on the #hustle comment though. That stuff makes me cringe the f out.
- wf 13y ago
  I can give you the #hustle, I don't know anyone who does that specifically haha, it also makes me cringe, but the idea of it is what I'm getting at. And, as far as "successful" people who talk about the hard work they're doing, I guess that also depends on what you define as successful, I know people who have day jobs and are doing incredible things on the side and they are happy and motivated doing what they love. I personally count that as success.
antitrust 13y ago
> I'm 24; I work a day job from 8 to 5; I go to the gym and go home and work on a startup from ~7-12 and do it all over again. And your life occurs where in that process? Sounds like a path to being a droid.
- wf 13y ago
  How so? I'm doing exactly what I want to be doing. I didn't say I don't socialize or go out on the weekends etc. I admit it's sparse because of my work but I love my life right now and if it pays off in the long run, even better.
- walshemj 13y ago
  or work your self an early grave like my mate who works for one of the big 4 in London has seen some of his young co workers do.
  - mortehu 13y ago
    > the big 4 in London Big Ben, Big Bus Tours, Big Red and ...? After Googling, it seems like the Big Four are audit firms, two of which are headquartered in UK. I guess there's a few people who don't know that.
- sets13 13y ago
  Just because you wouldn't personally enjoy that life doesn't make it inherently wrong. Perhaps he enjoys his work and the people he works with, and finds his start up work at night very fulfilling who are you or I to decide that he is wrong or missing out?
zivins 13y ago
While I don't necessarily like to see people brag about working hard, I definitely agree that this post is one sided and misses the point. If your work is just a way to make money and do things you enjoy, you should change your profession to something you're passionate about. Your work should be your craft. But if you'd like to just make money and explore the world and try different hobbies, more power to you. But don't assume that everyone who works long hours is just inefficient. And I also think the comment about the truck driver is extremely snobby. Truck drivers provide an essential service and they have to work long hard hours away from their families. I don't care if you make twice as much and work half the hours. Don't be a dick.
swamp40 13y ago
Don't let them drag you down. You are 100% on track - good job.
trustfundbaby 13y ago
I used to do exactly the same thing, (most productive time of my life, startup didn't make it though) and there's nothing wrong with that at all, where the problem lies is when people make like that should be normal, because it isn't.

by wf 13y ago

Ataub24 13y ago

sorry man. I hear you. the point isn't to bash working hard- it pushes a bit that you should work hard + smart. it's more of a rant about pushing that out to the twitterz/4sq. I mean how many successful people actually push out how hard they are working and how much shit they are getting done? I can't count any. can't agree on the #hustle comment though. That stuff makes me cringe the f out.

wf 13y ago
I can give you the #hustle, I don't know anyone who does that specifically haha, it also makes me cringe, but the idea of it is what I'm getting at. And, as far as "successful" people who talk about the hard work they're doing, I guess that also depends on what you define as successful, I know people who have day jobs and are doing incredible things on the side and they are happy and motivated doing what they love. I personally count that as success.

antitrust 13y ago

> I'm 24; I work a day job from 8 to 5; I go to the gym and go home and work on a startup from ~7-12 and do it all over again. And your life occurs where in that process? Sounds like a path to being a droid.

wf 13y ago
How so? I'm doing exactly what I want to be doing. I didn't say I don't socialize or go out on the weekends etc. I admit it's sparse because of my work but I love my life right now and if it pays off in the long run, even better.
walshemj 13y ago
or work your self an early grave like my mate who works for one of the big 4 in London has seen some of his young co workers do.
- mortehu 13y ago
  > the big 4 in London Big Ben, Big Bus Tours, Big Red and ...? After Googling, it seems like the Big Four are audit firms, two of which are headquartered in UK. I guess there's a few people who don't know that.
sets13 13y ago
Just because you wouldn't personally enjoy that life doesn't make it inherently wrong. Perhaps he enjoys his work and the people he works with, and finds his start up work at night very fulfilling who are you or I to decide that he is wrong or missing out?

zivins 13y ago

While I don't necessarily like to see people brag about working hard, I definitely agree that this post is one sided and misses the point. If your work is just a way to make money and do things you enjoy, you should change your profession to something you're passionate about. Your work should be your craft. But if you'd like to just make money and explore the world and try different hobbies, more power to you. But don't assume that everyone who works long hours is just inefficient. And I also think the comment about the truck driver is extremely snobby. Truck drivers provide an essential service and they have to work long hard hours away from their families. I don't care if you make twice as much and work half the hours. Don't be a dick.

swamp40 13y ago

Don't let them drag you down. You are 100% on track - good job.

trustfundbaby 13y ago

I used to do exactly the same thing, (most productive time of my life, startup didn't make it though) and there's nothing wrong with that at all, where the problem lies is when people make like that should be normal, because it isn't.