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> If math & science is so hard, the real question should be: why the hell is everything else so 'easy'? Look at usage. I majored in CS, minored in Mathematics

by com2kid 13y ago

> If math & science is so hard, the real question should be: why the hell is everything else so 'easy'? Look at usage. I majored in CS, minored in Mathematics, yet as a programmer, I do more communicating in English than anything resembling math, and about an even amount communicating ideas and coding. Growing up, everyday we speak, talk, write. We live history all around us, we see TV specials about WW2, parents and grandparents tell stories about their childhoods. When is math truly used? On occasion, sure, it serves its purpose quite well. But in day to day life? One does not go around taking the derivative of arbitrary objects, but one may very well be called upon to present a persuasive argument or find a moment to whisper poetry in a loved one's ear. It may very well be a case that our daily living does more to reinforce materials learned aside from the math and sciences.

selimthegrim 13y ago
Real research mathematics, that which can't be reduced to mental calculation, requires a command of verbal reasoning well beyond what it takes to win at analogies on the SAT (as does theoretical physics). It can also add to your ability to express yourself. I very concisely was able to get my feelings about Mitt Romney across to my math major roommate when I stated that Romney's ilk believed the well ordering principle could proven to apply to people and not just integers. Another less esoteric example is this James Fallows article about the Carter administration http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1979/05/the-passionless-presidency/308516/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1979/05/the-pass... (ctrl-F cube root) This was particularly chuckleworthy because I had just encountered a bug in the TI calculator system (I used to work for a TI subcontractor) where to make the cube root of -1 just be -1 (ie always taking the principal branch for the unwashed masses of eighth graders who knew nothing of complex numbers), TI decided to have negative rational numbers with an odd denominator have odd roots go to -1, and even denominators numerically evaluate. (Try graphing the cube root function on your TI and see the function go all over the place for negative values, this is why) When we complained that it was screwing up the numerics we were trying to code, we were told "it's a bug, not a feature". I referred to it as "circumcising the cube root" in a drunken email to said math major.
eli_gottlieb 13y ago
or find a moment to whisper poetry in a loved one's ear. You mean people actually do that? I thought we all just whispered ridiculous jokes and stupid memes to our loved ones and then pretended to the outside world it was fine poetry.

by com2kid 13y ago

selimthegrim 13y ago

Real research mathematics, that which can't be reduced to mental calculation, requires a command of verbal reasoning well beyond what it takes to win at analogies on the SAT (as does theoretical physics). It can also add to your ability to express yourself. I very concisely was able to get my feelings about Mitt Romney across to my math major roommate when I stated that Romney's ilk believed the well ordering principle could proven to apply to people and not just integers. Another less esoteric example is this James Fallows article about the Carter administration http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1979/05/the-passionless-presidency/308516/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1979/05/the-pass... (ctrl-F cube root) This was particularly chuckleworthy because I had just encountered a bug in the TI calculator system (I used to work for a TI subcontractor) where to make the cube root of -1 just be -1 (ie always taking the principal branch for the unwashed masses of eighth graders who knew nothing of complex numbers), TI decided to have negative rational numbers with an odd denominator have odd roots go to -1, and even denominators numerically evaluate. (Try graphing the cube root function on your TI and see the function go all over the place for negative values, this is why) When we complained that it was screwing up the numerics we were trying to code, we were told "it's a bug, not a feature". I referred to it as "circumcising the cube root" in a drunken email to said math major.

eli_gottlieb 13y ago

or find a moment to whisper poetry in a loved one's ear. You mean people actually do that? I thought we all just whispered ridiculous jokes and stupid memes to our loved ones and then pretended to the outside world it was fine poetry.