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What could Valve possibly say? "We fired her because we felt it was a mistake to hire her, and then afterwards there wasn't anything for the rest of the hardwa

What could Valve possibly say? "We fired her because we felt it was a mistake to hire her, and then afterwards there wasn't anything for the rest of the hardware team to do." It sucks, but it happens. Incidentally, this is exactly why a large portion of the Valve handbook is devoted to hiring. Letting questionable people into your company will poison the place from the inside, and then from the outside. This is a perfect example of that. Valve wanted to get into the hardware field. Then the way she went about hiring people made it clear that it was a mistake to hire her in the first place. What else was there to do except layoff the entire hardware team, or let her ruin the company culture by acquiescing to her demands for "let these engineers work here, or this project can't work"? And maybe it couldn't. But preserving company culture is far more important than this particular project, especially at a place like Valve.

kevingadd 13y ago
Strong words. How exactly do you justify your claims that she was somehow poisoning the place from the inside? Everyone who's departed Valve left because she was there? What's wrong with how she went about hiring people? I find it questionable whether you can just assume that Valve's company culture is worth preserving wholesale if it apparently can't tolerate the addition of a few hardware people.
- sillysaurus 13y ago
  It's obvious from her words in the article. She wanted to bring people on board and the "old timers" didn't agree with her choices. Since the old timers are the epitome of a company's culture, then that means she was poisoning it. The options were to let her do it or let her go.
  - srdev 13y ago
    That's a poor conclusion. Saying that she was poisoning the culture is inherently making a judgement that the existing culture should be sacrosanct and that any changes are bad. This is poor reasoning. There is such a thing as bad culture. We don't have details on why there wasn't a "cultural fit," so its hard to say for certain, but if the culture was preventing successful execution of a project that the company was invested in, then I would say that the culture should be adjusted. And certainly, the way she described her interactions would indicate that the people of importance at Valve -- the hidden middle managers -- had a close-minded approach to working with people who's experiences did not match their own, if the story is taken at face value.
    - sillysaurus 13y ago
      For what it's worth, I agree. But in this instance, Valve is the last bastion of hope for game programmers in the industry to work somewhere whose owners don't try to exploit us as money fountains. If there's a place whose culture is worth preserving, it's Valve's, even at the cost of this particular project.
      - srdev 13y ago
        Assuming its the case that you have to make a choice between the existing culture and this project, and that there is no compromise, that would be a fair justification. I have no idea if this is actually the case or not, since I'm not in the industry, so I'll just say that I don't disagree with what you said.
        sillysaurus 13y ago
        I don't understand -- when you hire someone most of the team isn't comfortable with, then you're making a compromise. And compromising on people is one of the worst mistakes a technology company can make, right? So why do you disagree?
        srdev 13y ago
        I said I don't disagree given the assumptions stated. I do disagree with the unqualified assertion that "compromising on people is one of the worst mistakes a technology company can make." Culture is a broad term that covers a lot of things. There are important and unimportant aspects. If you reject a person because they can't work productively in your org, that's one thing. If you reject them because they'd rather go home to their family rather than participate in your after-work Starcraft sessions, that's another. Both can be considered culture, but only one is actually important to the working environment. Furthermore, marking it as the "worst mistake" makes the assumption that compromising on culture is necessarily destructive, which its not. Again, it really depends on which points you're compromising on.
        kevingadd 13y ago

kevingadd 13y ago

Strong words. How exactly do you justify your claims that she was somehow poisoning the place from the inside? Everyone who's departed Valve left because she was there? What's wrong with how she went about hiring people? I find it questionable whether you can just assume that Valve's company culture is worth preserving wholesale if it apparently can't tolerate the addition of a few hardware people.

sillysaurus 13y ago
It's obvious from her words in the article. She wanted to bring people on board and the "old timers" didn't agree with her choices. Since the old timers are the epitome of a company's culture, then that means she was poisoning it. The options were to let her do it or let her go.
- srdev 13y ago
  That's a poor conclusion. Saying that she was poisoning the culture is inherently making a judgement that the existing culture should be sacrosanct and that any changes are bad. This is poor reasoning. There is such a thing as bad culture. We don't have details on why there wasn't a "cultural fit," so its hard to say for certain, but if the culture was preventing successful execution of a project that the company was invested in, then I would say that the culture should be adjusted. And certainly, the way she described her interactions would indicate that the people of importance at Valve -- the hidden middle managers -- had a close-minded approach to working with people who's experiences did not match their own, if the story is taken at face value.
  - sillysaurus 13y ago
    For what it's worth, I agree. But in this instance, Valve is the last bastion of hope for game programmers in the industry to work somewhere whose owners don't try to exploit us as money fountains. If there's a place whose culture is worth preserving, it's Valve's, even at the cost of this particular project.
    - srdev 13y ago
      Assuming its the case that you have to make a choice between the existing culture and this project, and that there is no compromise, that would be a fair justification. I have no idea if this is actually the case or not, since I'm not in the industry, so I'll just say that I don't disagree with what you said.
      - sillysaurus 13y ago
        I don't understand -- when you hire someone most of the team isn't comfortable with, then you're making a compromise. And compromising on people is one of the worst mistakes a technology company can make, right? So why do you disagree?
        srdev 13y ago
        I said I don't disagree given the assumptions stated. I do disagree with the unqualified assertion that "compromising on people is one of the worst mistakes a technology company can make." Culture is a broad term that covers a lot of things. There are important and unimportant aspects. If you reject a person because they can't work productively in your org, that's one thing. If you reject them because they'd rather go home to their family rather than participate in your after-work Starcraft sessions, that's another. Both can be considered culture, but only one is actually important to the working environment. Furthermore, marking it as the "worst mistake" makes the assumption that compromising on culture is necessarily destructive, which its not. Again, it really depends on which points you're compromising on.
        kevingadd 13y ago