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cperciva is well-known in the relevant fields, and while it may yet be that scrypt doesn't get widely adopted, it won't be because it's not a secure system. I'

by _pius 18y ago

cperciva is well-known in the relevant fields, and while it may yet be that scrypt doesn't get widely adopted, it won't be because it's not a secure system. I'm assuming what you meant to say is "it won't be because cperciva doesn't know what he's doing."

RiderOfGiraffes 18y ago
That's possibly a better way of phrasing it - thank you. Crypto is notoriously difficult, and it's clearly prudent to wait and see what others say, and how it works. It actually misses my intended point, though. This forum is generally exceptional in the quality of its submissions and comments, which is what makes it even more annoying when someone says: I don't know this guy. Probably he is really famous (?), but ... This amounts to saying "I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm not going to bother doing any homework before making my ignorance known to you all ..."
- Tichy 18y ago
  No it doesn't. What I was saying is that the word of one person is not sufficient in such matters, no matter how famous the person. Hence there is (imo) no need to do homework on the popularity of the person. I could have done homework on the community opinion towards scrypt, however, I was commenting on the article (which did not cite any community opinions), not on the validity of scrypt. Therefore that kind of homework would not have been necessary in my opinion.
  - RiderOfGiraffes 18y ago
    FWIW, I agree entirely that the word of one person isn't enough in matters of crypto and security. I probably agree entirely with most comments on the actual issues of security, etc. However, it seemed to me from your original comment that you proclaimed ignorance and didn't do any homework. I feel that that is at odds with what is expected of this community. Perhaps I'm wrong, and I'll say no more.

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cperciva is well-known in the relevant fields, and while it may yet be that scrypt doesn't get widely adopted, it won't be because it's not a secure system. I'

by _pius 18y ago

RiderOfGiraffes 18y ago
That's possibly a better way of phrasing it - thank you. Crypto is notoriously difficult, and it's clearly prudent to wait and see what others say, and how it works. It actually misses my intended point, though. This forum is generally exceptional in the quality of its submissions and comments, which is what makes it even more annoying when someone says: I don't know this guy. Probably he is really famous (?), but ... This amounts to saying "I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm not going to bother doing any homework before making my ignorance known to you all ..."
- Tichy 18y ago
  No it doesn't. What I was saying is that the word of one person is not sufficient in such matters, no matter how famous the person. Hence there is (imo) no need to do homework on the popularity of the person. I could have done homework on the community opinion towards scrypt, however, I was commenting on the article (which did not cite any community opinions), not on the validity of scrypt. Therefore that kind of homework would not have been necessary in my opinion.
  - RiderOfGiraffes 18y ago
    FWIW, I agree entirely that the word of one person isn't enough in matters of crypto and security. I probably agree entirely with most comments on the actual issues of security, etc. However, it seemed to me from your original comment that you proclaimed ignorance and didn't do any homework. I feel that that is at odds with what is expected of this community. Perhaps I'm wrong, and I'll say no more.