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Given the close relationship between Google and the NSA, I suggest they are removed from the IETF until further notice. I would trust Microsoft more than the sn
by xcnm3 13y ago
Given the close relationship between Google and the NSA, I suggest they are removed from the IETF until further notice. I would trust Microsoft more than the snake oil Google produces.
No surprise they've opted for a binary protocol rather than ASCII, anything to reduce transparency
- tootie 13y agoMicrosoft has been just as cooperative with the NSA as Google. They have access to Bing and Skype.
- cromwellian 13y agoWhat close relationship between Google and the NSA are you referring to?
- xcnm3 13y agoGoogle providing direct access to their servers and infrastructure. Every Google service was open to the NSA; GMail, Google Drive, Google Talk, you name it.
- cromwellian 13y agoAnd the evidence for this is?
- xcnm3 13y agoPlease read the leaked information from Edward Snowden. I don't wish to paraprase the last few weeks of news for someone.
- cromwellian 13y agoIt's a rhetorical question. None of the leaks provide any evidence that Google actively cooperates with the NSA in any way. No evidence of equipment at Google data centers, no evidence of any kind of remote access for the NSA, other than the already existing legal channels. The claim that Google had foreknowledge of PRISM, or worked with the NSA to build some kind of firehose for them is unsupportable given what we know, and is pure speculation on your part. Thus, the claim of close cooperation with the NSA is frankly, ad hominem.
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- xcnm3 13y agoIt's considered impolite to be deliberately obtuse. I won't waste my time responding further, I strongly suspect you're a Google employee or other employee of the US government.
- bitwize 13y agoAbsence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Given what's come out about the NSA, it's much more plausible to assume that Google is cooperating with them.
- mtgx 13y agoFYI, Microsoft joined PRISM first: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/images/prism-slide-5.jpg http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-...
- uxp 13y agoIf we really want to get into the FYIs here, PRISM is not some network intrusion tool designed to siphon data away form large companies, it's just a stupid database where governmental agencies can throw their data obtained by either NSA letters, or a standard bench warrant. Much like IAFIS is a standard database operated by the FBI.
- josteink 13y ago> No surprise they've opted for a binary protocol Independent of the reasons behind doing so, I too have a problem with that. I you're interested, I've opened an issue on it [0]. [0] https://github.com/http2/http2-spec/issues/169 https://github.com/http2/http2-spec/issues/169
- jjmanton 13y agoA Microsoft employee is the editor on this document. Also, how is binary protocol used to "reduce transparency" ? Its simply a different way of encoding, and once this takes off there will be a vast set of tools for analyzing http/2.0. The purpose of binary is to reduce data transmitted.