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silence is considered a commercial dishonor, and allows the other party to dictate the terms of the contract you're negotiating. Police are excellent contract n

silence is considered a commercial dishonor, and allows the other party to dictate the terms of the contract you're negotiating. Police are excellent contract negotiators ("you are under arrest" is a contract offer, legally), and are trained that if you're not in acceptance with their offers/orders, they pretty much get to do whatever they want to/with you. Seems the Supreme Court disagrees with your opinion as well [1]. [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/17/supreme-court-silence_n_3453968.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/17/supreme-court-silen...

steveklabnik 13y ago
> ("you are under arrest" is a contract offer, legally), Could you, uh, expand on this?
- seren 13y ago
  This looks like some http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land which is a fringe belief in how the law operates.
  - aclevernickname 13y ago
    First of all, those guys are terrorists. That's extraordinarily rude to lump me in with them. Second, Your comment is an ad-hominem [1], unless you can provide evidence that I believe what they believe. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
    - seren 13y ago
      I am not saying you are an adherent to this movement, but to my uninitiated eyes, it looks like some thing I have seen said or written by FOTLer, namely the reference to contract, etc, but I agree this was bad form to infer that you were a supporter of all or any idiosyncrasies of these groups.
- aclevernickname 13y ago
  I'd love to in private. saying things in public seems to bring out the ad-hominem brigade. I would suggest Brian Blum's "Contracts: Examples and Explanations" [1] as a good first step, and start applying the knowledge therein to your local acts/statutes regarding law enforcement. Further, I would advise looking up the rules of conduct for your local BAR, so you understand the motives behind "Don't Talk to Cops". [1] http://www.amazon.com/Contracts-Examples-Explanations-Series/dp/0735539693 http://www.amazon.com/Contracts-Examples-Explanations-Series...

steveklabnik 13y ago

> ("you are under arrest" is a contract offer, legally), Could you, uh, expand on this?

seren 13y ago
This looks like some http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land which is a fringe belief in how the law operates.
- aclevernickname 13y ago
  First of all, those guys are terrorists. That's extraordinarily rude to lump me in with them. Second, Your comment is an ad-hominem [1], unless you can provide evidence that I believe what they believe. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
  - seren 13y ago
    I am not saying you are an adherent to this movement, but to my uninitiated eyes, it looks like some thing I have seen said or written by FOTLer, namely the reference to contract, etc, but I agree this was bad form to infer that you were a supporter of all or any idiosyncrasies of these groups.
aclevernickname 13y ago
I'd love to in private. saying things in public seems to bring out the ad-hominem brigade. I would suggest Brian Blum's "Contracts: Examples and Explanations" [1] as a good first step, and start applying the knowledge therein to your local acts/statutes regarding law enforcement. Further, I would advise looking up the rules of conduct for your local BAR, so you understand the motives behind "Don't Talk to Cops". [1] http://www.amazon.com/Contracts-Examples-Explanations-Series/dp/0735539693 http://www.amazon.com/Contracts-Examples-Explanations-Series...