> The gist of the DOJ's argument is sound "Collect everything" doesn't pass the giggle test. They're very definitely making law. They're very definitely grabb

> The gist of the DOJ's argument is sound "Collect everything" doesn't pass the giggle test. They're very definitely making law. They're very definitely grabbing things (metadata, probably content, arguably power) that Congress didn't want them to have, or it would have clearly said so. That this is all secret makes it even more evil, to the extent that if we the public have lost trust in these people, they should simply be shut down because we can otherwise not be sure. Dismantle a bunch of data centers, shred many, many drives and tapes, and say "never again." If the prophylactic solution is too draconian, then they need to provably come clean about what they have been up to.