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I agree. I was approaching from the angle of being amused that they obviously put a lot of work into making C++ compile reasonably fast when they created a lang

I agree. I was approaching from the angle of being amused that they obviously put a lot of work into making C++ compile reasonably fast when they created a language that, amongst other things, addresses that issue by addressing the actual causes of slowness (as opposed to some giant cluster). I agree that for very few people compilation speed is "their" winning Go feature. (Although it is handy for situations were you want to use Go like a scripting language using go run)

sltkr 13y ago
I always thought of the Go team as mostly outsiders coming from Plan 9 who were being sponsored by Google, but otherwise aren't really an integral part of the company (but then again, I don't know much about Google's internal organization). > Although it is handy for situations were you want to use Go like a scripting language using go run `go run` isn't that fast, really. A simple "hello world" takes 320ms on my system, while the equivalent in C takes 40ms, and C++ takes 270ms. Honestly I can't of a single use case where I think Go's compiler speed matters. And again: that's coming from someone who likes Go for basically every other reason.
- voidlogic 13y ago
  >I always thought of the Go team as mostly outsiders coming from Plan 9 who were being sponsored by Google, but otherwise aren't really an integral part of the company (but then again, I don't know much about Google's internal organization). Well Rob and Ken are from Bell/Plan 9, but Robert is from Java HotSpot. My understanding is they were allowed to take what was their "20%" side project and Go full-time once it showed promise for addressing Google's language problems. >`go run` isn't that fast, really. A simple "hello world" takes 320ms on my system, while the equivalent in C takes 40ms, and C++ takes 270ms. Shouldn't you be comparing Go to Python, Perl or PHP in the context of "go run"? Also, benchmarking "Hello World" programs is not usually a very meaningful activity in any context. > And again: that's coming from someone who likes Go for basically every other reason. I like Go too and I think we agree that the compile speed, while nice, is just gravy when it comes to what Go has to offer.

sltkr 13y ago

I always thought of the Go team as mostly outsiders coming from Plan 9 who were being sponsored by Google, but otherwise aren't really an integral part of the company (but then again, I don't know much about Google's internal organization). > Although it is handy for situations were you want to use Go like a scripting language using go run `go run` isn't that fast, really. A simple "hello world" takes 320ms on my system, while the equivalent in C takes 40ms, and C++ takes 270ms. Honestly I can't of a single use case where I think Go's compiler speed matters. And again: that's coming from someone who likes Go for basically every other reason.

voidlogic 13y ago
>I always thought of the Go team as mostly outsiders coming from Plan 9 who were being sponsored by Google, but otherwise aren't really an integral part of the company (but then again, I don't know much about Google's internal organization). Well Rob and Ken are from Bell/Plan 9, but Robert is from Java HotSpot. My understanding is they were allowed to take what was their "20%" side project and Go full-time once it showed promise for addressing Google's language problems. >`go run` isn't that fast, really. A simple "hello world" takes 320ms on my system, while the equivalent in C takes 40ms, and C++ takes 270ms. Shouldn't you be comparing Go to Python, Perl or PHP in the context of "go run"? Also, benchmarking "Hello World" programs is not usually a very meaningful activity in any context. > And again: that's coming from someone who likes Go for basically every other reason. I like Go too and I think we agree that the compile speed, while nice, is just gravy when it comes to what Go has to offer.