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This might be a good thing, but since the government has the option to release 100% redacted documents, the Secret Service hasn't really been ordered to release

by phaus 13y ago

This might be a good thing, but since the government has the option to release 100% redacted documents, the Secret Service hasn't really been ordered to release anything other than a stack of black pieces of paper. If they release more than that, it's because they either want to, or don't care. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/page/department-justice-black-mark-aclu-19152996 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/page/department-justice-black...

argumentum 13y ago
Nonetheless, we'll get to see how much is redacted and therefore how much they want to hide. That's valuable information in and of itself.
- phaus 13y ago
  It would have the potential to be valuable in the future, if nefarious acts came to light via some other method, because it would potentially show that possibly illegal actions were taken to hide the information. However, if nothing actionable is ever discovered about this case, then the redacted documents would be completely worthless. Only time will tell.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  I wonder if it would be legal for them to throw on a few extra all-black pages as "padding". Not worth it obviously, but it would be an amusing hack.
  - phaus 13y ago
    Like a couple pages of redacted "This page intentionally left blank"?
    - jlgreco 13y ago
      Yeah, exactly! You'd have to redact the blankness of course, otherwise people would know what it was.. ;)
- phillmv 13y ago
  I predict his file will be incredibly boring/banal stuff, with the odd wild conjecture. The blacked out parts will consist entirely of things embarrassing to the agents who compiled it.
- benatkin 13y ago
  Either way, they get to collect IP addresses of those who try to view it.
- popee 13y ago
  Metadata :-)
joering2 13y ago
Maybe they can, BUT they won't. You see, as The President of The United States of America pledged: if he gets elected, he will create the most transparent administration in the history of the USA! So long story short, they will not redact anything.
- deleted 13y ago
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- gwern 13y ago
  I can't tell whether you're being completely clueless or hilariously sarcastic & witty.
  - sigzero 13y ago
    Definitely sarcasm...
  - ChuckMcM 13y ago
    I'm betting on the latter, and like gin & tonic with a spritz of bitters.
- pvnick 13y ago
  Tangentially related: https://twitter.com/fisa_court https://twitter.com/fisa_court
- medde 13y ago
  Whatever they do about one case doesn't tell you much
- deleted 13y ago
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- raverbashing 13y ago
  Or maybe black ink is out, boxcutter redacting is in Talk about releasing very transparent documents.
- rayiner 13y ago
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pedromorgan 13y ago
aahh.. politicians and marketing machines settings the agenda.. sam's place same time and a steady stresm.. Maybe we get real and make it all Open Source.. and two sides.. Hell.. maybe we can KickStart a 200 millions cable submarine project ? ??
gngeal 13y ago
the Secret Service hasn't really been ordered to release anything other than a stack of black pieces of paper. Wouldn't that de facto qualify as a contempt of court?

by phaus 13y ago

argumentum 13y ago

Nonetheless, we'll get to see how much is redacted and therefore how much they want to hide. That's valuable information in and of itself.

phaus 13y ago
It would have the potential to be valuable in the future, if nefarious acts came to light via some other method, because it would potentially show that possibly illegal actions were taken to hide the information. However, if nothing actionable is ever discovered about this case, then the redacted documents would be completely worthless. Only time will tell.
jlgreco 13y ago
I wonder if it would be legal for them to throw on a few extra all-black pages as "padding". Not worth it obviously, but it would be an amusing hack.
- phaus 13y ago
  Like a couple pages of redacted "This page intentionally left blank"?
  - jlgreco 13y ago
    Yeah, exactly! You'd have to redact the blankness of course, otherwise people would know what it was.. ;)
phillmv 13y ago
I predict his file will be incredibly boring/banal stuff, with the odd wild conjecture. The blacked out parts will consist entirely of things embarrassing to the agents who compiled it.
benatkin 13y ago
Either way, they get to collect IP addresses of those who try to view it.
popee 13y ago
Metadata :-)

joering2 13y ago

Maybe they can, BUT they won't. You see, as The President of The United States of America pledged: if he gets elected, he will create the most transparent administration in the history of the USA! So long story short, they will not redact anything.

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gwern 13y ago
I can't tell whether you're being completely clueless or hilariously sarcastic & witty.
- sigzero 13y ago
  Definitely sarcasm...
- ChuckMcM 13y ago
  I'm betting on the latter, and like gin & tonic with a spritz of bitters.
pvnick 13y ago
Tangentially related: https://twitter.com/fisa_court https://twitter.com/fisa_court
medde 13y ago
Whatever they do about one case doesn't tell you much
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raverbashing 13y ago
Or maybe black ink is out, boxcutter redacting is in Talk about releasing very transparent documents.
rayiner 13y ago

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pedromorgan 13y ago

aahh.. politicians and marketing machines settings the agenda.. sam's place same time and a steady stresm.. Maybe we get real and make it all Open Source.. and two sides.. Hell.. maybe we can KickStart a 200 millions cable submarine project ? ??

gngeal 13y ago

the Secret Service hasn't really been ordered to release anything other than a stack of black pieces of paper. Wouldn't that de facto qualify as a contempt of court?