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> Adjusting numbers on paper doesn't take into account for primitive human behavior. No, but treating humans like humans gets us to behave like good humans. Ev

by derleth 13y ago

> Adjusting numbers on paper doesn't take into account for primitive human behavior. No, but treating humans like humans gets us to behave like good humans. Even in our own country we've seen murder rates go down year by year, with few anomalies, as we've cleaned up things like child abuse and spousal abuse and so on. Primitive human behavior used to include bear-baiting and beating children bloody for not being able to recite a Latin passage correctly. Is it any wonder that reducing that has lead to fewer people who have no real compassion? > You can't take the human out of the human. And this plan for giving away money or housing or food (which has already been tried numerous times) is dead on delivery. Except in all the countries where it's worked for decades, right? Is the Nordic Model a fantasy, then? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model

ChrisNorstrom 13y ago
Denmark, Sweden, and Norway are genetically and ethnically homogeneous, making it easier and faster for the society to enforce social norms and standards. Japan and South Korea are as well. That's why that system works so well and those countries are so...well... civilized and developed. What works for a homogeneous country will not automatically work for a heterogeneous country like America. There are some fucked up people living here. You really don't get it because you haven't been here. Again, like I said in my first comment, you have a good heart and good intentions but you might think this way because you've been living in a nice walled garden away from shitty people. The people of a country determine the majority of its success. Not just it's laws. People from different countries, people from different backgrounds have different levels of civility. It may be cultural (which can be changed) or it may be genetic (which cannot be changed unless weeded out genetically). This is why I'm saying what works in one country won't automatically work in another.
- derleth 13y ago
  > Denmark, Sweden, and Norway are genetically and ethnically homogeneous, making it easier and faster for the society to enforce social norms and standards. I have absolutely no time for racism. BTW, I'm American, born and raised.
  - ChrisNorstrom 13y ago
    http://www.pri.org/stories/health/scientists-find-surprisingly-good-health-levels-in-ethnically-homogeneous-neighborhoods.html http://www.pri.org/stories/health/scientists-find-surprising...
- userulluipeste 13y ago
  Few people I have the chance to listen about such maters actually know what they are talking about. I upvoted your strings of replies here. I live in Romania and here we always have had all kinds of immigrants from all around us. Maybe there were inter-ethnic tensions but the environment was always civilized, and the minorities integrated themselves (mostly) as a part of society. ...well, with one notable exception - the gypsies. The rest of the Europe are blaming us for not putting enough efforts on their education and integration but they do not seem to have an idea who the gypsies are and that is especially irritating. There are all kind of... let's say "peculiar" people in this world with whom it is difficult to accomplish things, but many of us are not willing or prepared to acknowledge this.

by derleth 13y ago

ChrisNorstrom 13y ago

Denmark, Sweden, and Norway are genetically and ethnically homogeneous, making it easier and faster for the society to enforce social norms and standards. Japan and South Korea are as well. That's why that system works so well and those countries are so...well... civilized and developed. What works for a homogeneous country will not automatically work for a heterogeneous country like America. There are some fucked up people living here. You really don't get it because you haven't been here. Again, like I said in my first comment, you have a good heart and good intentions but you might think this way because you've been living in a nice walled garden away from shitty people. The people of a country determine the majority of its success. Not just it's laws. People from different countries, people from different backgrounds have different levels of civility. It may be cultural (which can be changed) or it may be genetic (which cannot be changed unless weeded out genetically). This is why I'm saying what works in one country won't automatically work in another.

derleth 13y ago
> Denmark, Sweden, and Norway are genetically and ethnically homogeneous, making it easier and faster for the society to enforce social norms and standards. I have absolutely no time for racism. BTW, I'm American, born and raised.
- ChrisNorstrom 13y ago
  http://www.pri.org/stories/health/scientists-find-surprisingly-good-health-levels-in-ethnically-homogeneous-neighborhoods.html http://www.pri.org/stories/health/scientists-find-surprising...
userulluipeste 13y ago
Few people I have the chance to listen about such maters actually know what they are talking about. I upvoted your strings of replies here. I live in Romania and here we always have had all kinds of immigrants from all around us. Maybe there were inter-ethnic tensions but the environment was always civilized, and the minorities integrated themselves (mostly) as a part of society. ...well, with one notable exception - the gypsies. The rest of the Europe are blaming us for not putting enough efforts on their education and integration but they do not seem to have an idea who the gypsies are and that is especially irritating. There are all kind of... let's say "peculiar" people in this world with whom it is difficult to accomplish things, but many of us are not willing or prepared to acknowledge this.