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He has a nice idea about a prospective path of resistance: "The [telcom] companies should write enforceable clauses into their terms, guaranteeing their client

He has a nice idea about a prospective path of resistance: "The [telcom] companies should write enforceable clauses into their terms, guaranteeing their clients that they are not being spied on. And they should include technical guarantees. If you could move even a single company to do such a thing, it would improve the security of global communications. And when this appears to not be feasible, you should consider starting one such company yourself." Google and Facebook don't seem to care, but the people here can create the kinds of companies that do. Let the PRISM collaborators starve of a talent storage.

antocv 13y ago
Yes, this is what we should talk about. How do we create, maintain and support companies that guarantee our privacy? What do we do when those companies and its employees receive threats, blackmails and various attacks by the feds? When they become infiltrated? When they buy them up like Skype and close its security down? Facebook, Oracle, Google all seemed to crap their pants when PRISM came out, can we increase the heat on them to stop what theyre doing? What methods do we have? What can we, the good hackers non-NSA-employed hackers, do? We have various encryption technologies, mega made some fine client-side encryption kind of easy to use, what else? Whatever we build will not be a perfect solution, it will require agreements and legal frameworks and support from a major group of people. Isnt this what GNU is about, the FSF and freedom box project? EDIT: Its kind of tiresome that HN must always have a critical comment at the top, no matter the issue, someone always tries to tear any story up to pieces. Id like to remind you people of this awesome quote; ""It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. ""

antocv 13y ago

Yes, this is what we should talk about. How do we create, maintain and support companies that guarantee our privacy? What do we do when those companies and its employees receive threats, blackmails and various attacks by the feds? When they become infiltrated? When they buy them up like Skype and close its security down? Facebook, Oracle, Google all seemed to crap their pants when PRISM came out, can we increase the heat on them to stop what theyre doing? What methods do we have? What can we, the good hackers non-NSA-employed hackers, do? We have various encryption technologies, mega made some fine client-side encryption kind of easy to use, what else? Whatever we build will not be a perfect solution, it will require agreements and legal frameworks and support from a major group of people. Isnt this what GNU is about, the FSF and freedom box project? EDIT: Its kind of tiresome that HN must always have a critical comment at the top, no matter the issue, someone always tries to tear any story up to pieces. Id like to remind you people of this awesome quote; ""It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. ""