I'd love it if management of all stripes, private and public, paid workers what they deserve, but that just isn't going to happen. Money is a zero sum asset, g

I'd love it if management of all stripes, private and public, paid workers what they deserve, but that just isn't going to happen. Money is a zero sum asset, giving to one is taking away from another. So without unions, there is no way these people could get what even some of them deserve. So be mad at the system, not the people doing what they can to survive. For most people "getting another job" isn't an option. Have you ever lived outside the bay area? Do you know what's happening in small towns all over america? What do 40 something factory workers with a high school diploma do in central Arkansas? What does a 50 year old BART train operator do in the Bay Area? Yes we shouldn't need unions, but we do. And the majority of workers do vote, and that's what being part of union is. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I guess those in the union who don't like the union can "suck it up and find another job like most people do, too." Yes, your comment "...or something" is an idiom that is derisive. It belies either your ignorance or laziness about the subject at hand. If you intended otherwise, you should have said that in the first place. Also, I've never heard a tech worker tell another tech worker that "they're overpaid." No, we all fight as hard as we can for what we have, and we should. And so should everyone else. But not everyone has the background, intelligence, training, or leverage to do so. Which most programmers will find out when Peter Thiel gets those offshore programming sweatshops going...