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I am sorry that you think I tried not to mention "Paleo". I agree that many of the changes were Paleo, but I also don't know how much of the other things affect

by dalmaer 13y ago

I am sorry that you think I tried not to mention "Paleo". I agree that many of the changes were Paleo, but I also don't know how much of the other things affected change. Over time I have also morphed the Paleo items of the diet. I don't think everyone needs to label things. I also enjoyed: http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/Debunking-the-Paleo-Diet-Christ http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/Debunking-the-Paleo-Diet-Chri...

VLM 13y ago
"I don't think everyone needs to label things." Then in the article you "There was a period of fierce reading about nutrition" followed by a long list of interesting labeled diets where your chosen course based on research was to basically select the paleo-ish part of each different diet, resulting in a basically paleo conclusion, without mentioning it by name. Combine that with the section of the article beginning "I started first with what I was consuming:" and the following read like a laundry list from Robb Wolf himself... You're on the right path. Its a really good path. But there's a sign you haven't mentioned hanging over the trail reading "welcome to the more or less paleo diet". You don't have to read that sign, you apparently figured it out the hard way via research. I think its cool you found the path all by yourself with intense study. Great minds think alike and all that, Very encouraging results. But folks looking for it the easy way on google or whatever are going to find it a lot easier, if you just use the commonly accepted placename / label. The Warinner presentation is pure straw dog. There's some hilarious rebuttals to be googled for. The important point is they're PR style debates not scientific debates. A lot of credentialism, one paleontologist vs multiple actual MDs, lots of focus on minor meaningless details. Its a very strange PR event. I wouldn't read too much into either her presentation or the rebuttals. Thats nice that you say the captain of the titanic should have steered a course of 15 degrees to avoid the iceberg, but I think a more correct value is actually 16 degrees, now lets distract the helmsman from making any change at all by arguing, as the ship plows directly into the iceberg. Given that the presentation provides little information, it does however point out that an open mind toward research is a great outlook. This is not a revealed religion. I fully expect that within my lifetime the ideal % meat consumption will change by 5% or so, but up or down, who knows? The overall message will remain the same, you should mostly eat what your ancestors ate, more or less, and the western diet is a pretty horrible epic fail at that with some really nasty negative health and financial consequences.

by dalmaer 13y ago

VLM 13y ago

"I don't think everyone needs to label things." Then in the article you "There was a period of fierce reading about nutrition" followed by a long list of interesting labeled diets where your chosen course based on research was to basically select the paleo-ish part of each different diet, resulting in a basically paleo conclusion, without mentioning it by name. Combine that with the section of the article beginning "I started first with what I was consuming:" and the following read like a laundry list from Robb Wolf himself... You're on the right path. Its a really good path. But there's a sign you haven't mentioned hanging over the trail reading "welcome to the more or less paleo diet". You don't have to read that sign, you apparently figured it out the hard way via research. I think its cool you found the path all by yourself with intense study. Great minds think alike and all that, Very encouraging results. But folks looking for it the easy way on google or whatever are going to find it a lot easier, if you just use the commonly accepted placename / label. The Warinner presentation is pure straw dog. There's some hilarious rebuttals to be googled for. The important point is they're PR style debates not scientific debates. A lot of credentialism, one paleontologist vs multiple actual MDs, lots of focus on minor meaningless details. Its a very strange PR event. I wouldn't read too much into either her presentation or the rebuttals. Thats nice that you say the captain of the titanic should have steered a course of 15 degrees to avoid the iceberg, but I think a more correct value is actually 16 degrees, now lets distract the helmsman from making any change at all by arguing, as the ship plows directly into the iceberg. Given that the presentation provides little information, it does however point out that an open mind toward research is a great outlook. This is not a revealed religion. I fully expect that within my lifetime the ideal % meat consumption will change by 5% or so, but up or down, who knows? The overall message will remain the same, you should mostly eat what your ancestors ate, more or less, and the western diet is a pretty horrible epic fail at that with some really nasty negative health and financial consequences.