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Given the number of times everyday I'm asked to fill my iTunes account's password on iOS, I wouldn't call it invisible.

by doe88 13y ago

ollysb 13y ago
The iTunes password prompt is absolutely maddening. If I make multiple purchases in iTunes it refuses to accept my password after the first purchase i.e. I can buy one film, but to buy another I have to restart. Never mind that I check the remember me box whenever I get the chance (which appears to be shown at random in the login box).
- Osmium 13y ago
  > The iTunes password prompt is absolutely maddening. Perhaps this is the reason for their supposed push to fingerprint scanners?
k-mcgrady 13y ago
AFAIK they actually made this worse due to the in-app purchase complaints (from parents who recklessly allowed their children access to their credit card). It used to appear for the first purchase and then not for the next 5 minutes (something like that anyway) but now it appears every time you try to purchase anything.
- panacea 13y ago
  Complaints? They lost a lawsuit and had to pay out because of in-app purchases. Incidentally, in-app purchases have practically spoiled their nascent status as the handheld gaming platform. In-app purchases make sense for certain things, but they've ruined the app store for gaming.
  - k-mcgrady 13y ago
    I will never understand how they lost that lawsuit. If a parent gives a child access to their credit card they deserve what happens. I totally agree with your second point, IAP has spoiled gaming on iOS and that's the fault of the game devs for taking advantage of it. However if it didn't work they wouldn't do it and obviously plenty of people spend money via IAP. It's also their only choice. People are willing to spend more small amounts of money over time than paying a fair price up front for the game.
  - parasubvert 13y ago
    I wouldn't quite say ruined. Made annoying at times, sure. What's the alternative? The iPad and iPhone are my kid's goto gaming platforms - way more than consoles.
- bbwharris 13y ago
  > from parents who recklessly allowed their children access to their credit card There's nothing reckless about handing a child their favorite game to play. Once you've been bit with a $100 charge for an in app purchase, you start to question the true utility of the password timeout. 5 minutes ago I downloaded the game on a new device for my child to play. Now they have unfettered access to my credit card account because I just downloaded the game. Blaming the parent for being "reckless" in this scenario is little unfair. Being a parent is extremely difficult. It requires a lot of patience, thought, and understanding. In app purchases love to trick the end user into accidental buying. What better demographic than the child who just received the car with the keys in the ignition? As a parent who's recklessly had this happen to them, I facepalmed and sucked up the extra charges. Mea Culpa, but it does irk me that it's so damn easy to do.
  - k-mcgrady 13y ago
    I don't mean to blame parents (if it happened to me my reaction would be similar to yours), I can certainly see how it can happen to people. But with parental controls built into the system and quite regular billing/receipts from Apple it seems like something a parent could spot quickly and prevent from happening again. My negative attitude is mostly towards the stories I've read in the news of parents who didn't notice until thousands of dollars had been billed to them over a couple of months.
- mahyarm 13y ago
  This is why they need a child/guest/multiuser mode so people can hand their phones to children and guests without fear of this kind of shit happening. You can get it on android tablets now, but it needs to be everywhere.

Given the number of times everyday I'm asked to fill my iTunes account's password on iOS, I wouldn't call it invisible.

by doe88 13y ago

Given the number of times everyday I'm asked to fill my iTunes account's password on iOS, I wouldn't call it invisible.

The iTunes password prompt is absolutely maddening. If I make multiple purchases in iTunes it refuses to accept my password after the first purchase i.e. I can buy one film, but to buy another I have to restart. Never mind that I check the remember me box whenever I get the chance (which appears to be shown at random in the login box).

Osmium 13y ago
> The iTunes password prompt is absolutely maddening. Perhaps this is the reason for their supposed push to fingerprint scanners?

k-mcgrady 13y ago

AFAIK they actually made this worse due to the in-app purchase complaints (from parents who recklessly allowed their children access to their credit card). It used to appear for the first purchase and then not for the next 5 minutes (something like that anyway) but now it appears every time you try to purchase anything.

panacea 13y ago
Complaints? They lost a lawsuit and had to pay out because of in-app purchases. Incidentally, in-app purchases have practically spoiled their nascent status as the handheld gaming platform. In-app purchases make sense for certain things, but they've ruined the app store for gaming.
- k-mcgrady 13y ago
  I will never understand how they lost that lawsuit. If a parent gives a child access to their credit card they deserve what happens. I totally agree with your second point, IAP has spoiled gaming on iOS and that's the fault of the game devs for taking advantage of it. However if it didn't work they wouldn't do it and obviously plenty of people spend money via IAP. It's also their only choice. People are willing to spend more small amounts of money over time than paying a fair price up front for the game.
- parasubvert 13y ago
  I wouldn't quite say ruined. Made annoying at times, sure. What's the alternative? The iPad and iPhone are my kid's goto gaming platforms - way more than consoles.
bbwharris 13y ago
> from parents who recklessly allowed their children access to their credit card There's nothing reckless about handing a child their favorite game to play. Once you've been bit with a $100 charge for an in app purchase, you start to question the true utility of the password timeout. 5 minutes ago I downloaded the game on a new device for my child to play. Now they have unfettered access to my credit card account because I just downloaded the game. Blaming the parent for being "reckless" in this scenario is little unfair. Being a parent is extremely difficult. It requires a lot of patience, thought, and understanding. In app purchases love to trick the end user into accidental buying. What better demographic than the child who just received the car with the keys in the ignition? As a parent who's recklessly had this happen to them, I facepalmed and sucked up the extra charges. Mea Culpa, but it does irk me that it's so damn easy to do.
- k-mcgrady 13y ago
  I don't mean to blame parents (if it happened to me my reaction would be similar to yours), I can certainly see how it can happen to people. But with parental controls built into the system and quite regular billing/receipts from Apple it seems like something a parent could spot quickly and prevent from happening again. My negative attitude is mostly towards the stories I've read in the news of parents who didn't notice until thousands of dollars had been billed to them over a couple of months.
mahyarm 13y ago
This is why they need a child/guest/multiuser mode so people can hand their phones to children and guests without fear of this kind of shit happening. You can get it on android tablets now, but it needs to be everywhere.