> At the same time, if you're routes are getting intimidating it may be time to break out application into separate concerns. I agree. But at the same time, no

> At the same time, if you're routes are getting intimidating it may be time to break out application into separate concerns. I agree. But at the same time, not a lot of frameworks out there really help you make your app more modular. Rails certainly didn't until relatively recently (late rails 2, big improvements in rails 3).