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I would guess a lot of their security stems from their closed app store. Apparently the process is a total hassle, takes weeks, and each every revision is akin

by codyb 13y ago

I would guess a lot of their security stems from their closed app store. Apparently the process is a total hassle, takes weeks, and each every revision is akin to releasing a brand new app. Perhaps they have application security testers breaking that code and ensuring it can not be broken into? Beyond their pruning of content they deem... not worthy of the Apple brand? I do not have an iPhone (or even a smart phone) so I am not exactly sure how downloads work. Can you download files to an iPhone from Safari or any other browser? If you can't then that certainly helps rule out a lot of malicious software possibilities.

threeseed 13y ago
You're definitely wrong there. The process is not a hassle, it rarely takes weeks and yes every update has to go through the same approval process again (as you would expect). And yes you can download some files to your phone but they only exist within the app's sandbox. The reason iOS security is so strong is because (a) there is no side loading, (b) system updates are regular, simple and apply to almost every phone and (c) apps are heavily sandboxed. It's not magic. Apple simply chose security over openness and flexibility. Android vice versa.
- tluyben2 13y ago
  I notice that the process is speeding up, at least here (it seems country specific, which would make sense as an English-only speaker would not be able to check if a Dutch app contains illegal language etc). Two years ago (for me, in the Netherlands), it took minimally 2 weeks to submit an app; these days it takes days. And the feedback loop if anything is wrong is also small now.
- krrrh 13y ago
  Exactly. It's been under a week for the last 6 months or so. http://reviewtimes.shinydevelopment.com/ios-annual-trend-graph.html http://reviewtimes.shinydevelopment.com/ios-annual-trend-gra...
- codyb 13y ago
  Apparently at one point it took longer and now it is shorter. That's good. That was kind of my point that I was trying to make though. I definitely could have said it better but what I was going for was "It is a closed system." Android development seemed relatively sandboxed to me though from the distributed systems course I did work for in. But I can see what you mean when you say heavily as things on Safari don't open up the Wikipedia app like on Android (if you choose to have it that way.) iPhone's are literally only iPhones too which I imagine helps. The system updates are tailored to a specific piece of hardware. Impossible to accomplish on an Android update.

by codyb 13y ago

threeseed 13y ago

You're definitely wrong there. The process is not a hassle, it rarely takes weeks and yes every update has to go through the same approval process again (as you would expect). And yes you can download some files to your phone but they only exist within the app's sandbox. The reason iOS security is so strong is because (a) there is no side loading, (b) system updates are regular, simple and apply to almost every phone and (c) apps are heavily sandboxed. It's not magic. Apple simply chose security over openness and flexibility. Android vice versa.

tluyben2 13y ago
I notice that the process is speeding up, at least here (it seems country specific, which would make sense as an English-only speaker would not be able to check if a Dutch app contains illegal language etc). Two years ago (for me, in the Netherlands), it took minimally 2 weeks to submit an app; these days it takes days. And the feedback loop if anything is wrong is also small now.
krrrh 13y ago
Exactly. It's been under a week for the last 6 months or so. http://reviewtimes.shinydevelopment.com/ios-annual-trend-graph.html http://reviewtimes.shinydevelopment.com/ios-annual-trend-gra...
codyb 13y ago
Apparently at one point it took longer and now it is shorter. That's good. That was kind of my point that I was trying to make though. I definitely could have said it better but what I was going for was "It is a closed system." Android development seemed relatively sandboxed to me though from the distributed systems course I did work for in. But I can see what you mean when you say heavily as things on Safari don't open up the Wikipedia app like on Android (if you choose to have it that way.) iPhone's are literally only iPhones too which I imagine helps. The system updates are tailored to a specific piece of hardware. Impossible to accomplish on an Android update.